- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Youtube demonitizes Dave Rubin's channel
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:13 am to SabiDojo
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:13 am to SabiDojo
i know that this is just anecdotal, but most of the channels I follow on YouTube are having some or all of their videos demonetized, very few of which are of a political nature.
YouTube isn't censoring free speech, they are censoring content that isn't deemed advertiser safe.
for example, if you use the word "assault" in a video, youll make a lot less than money if you kept it out of the title.
YouTube isn't censoring free speech, they are censoring content that isn't deemed advertiser safe.
for example, if you use the word "assault" in a video, youll make a lot less than money if you kept it out of the title.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:15 am to rocket31
quote:
YouTube isn't censoring free speech, they are censoring content that isn't deemed advertiser safe.
Yeah, I don't know a lot of HOW it works (the monetization), but it does seem that what you're saying is the case.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:22 am to rocket31
quote:
so youre against capitalism now? interesting
where did i say that?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:23 am to rocket31
quote:
YouTube isn't censoring free speech, they are censoring content that isn't deemed advertiser safe.
and that argument works for a Milo
it doesn't work for Dave Rubin
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
it doesn't work for Dave Rubin
wrong
90% of videos are about politics, that is why they are being demonetized
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:30 am to rocket31
The idea that they should only "monetize" content that generally seeks to appeal to everybody, seems rather short-sighted from a purely business perspective.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:31 am to rocket31
quote:
90% of videos are about politics, that is why they are being demonetized
What's the issue?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:32 am to rocket31
quote:
wrong
90% of videos are about politics, that is why they are being demonetized
And 90% of his politics are about letting people be free to do what they wish. It isn't controversial stuff. He's promoting the very thing this country was founded on. Only in 2017 would that be considered "offensive".
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:33 am to upgrayedd
quote:
And 90% of his politics are about letting people be free to do what they wish. It isn't controversial stuff. He's promoting the very thing this country was founded on. Only in 2017 would that be considered "offensive".
Yep. There are a shite load of people who make a living off of Youtube who are faaar more controversial than Rubin.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:34 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
The idea that they should only "monetize" content that generally seeks to appeal to everybody, seems rather short-sighted from a purely business perspective.
It does seem to oversimplify. Microcosms within cultures/groups mean different interests/ideas which means different needs in the market.
For example, an online gun broker would have more success on a hunting channel on YouTube than on the EverdayFeminism channel.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:35 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Can you explain to me how YouTube monetization and demonetization works? Or do you have a link?
some of it is proprietary so it's not fully known, but after the WSJ hit piece on pewdiepie, Youtube has overreacted and created mechanisms to remove ads on "hate speech". what this has done is allow a disproportionate amount of flags for "hate speech" for non-progressives (within the field of political discussion).
LINK
quote:
In response, Schindler has promised a three-tier overhaul of Google’s advertising policies, both on YouTube and on the company’s wider ad products.
First, Google itself is going to tighten its policies around what can live on its platforms, and what subset of that content can support advertising on it. “Starting today, we’re taking a tougher stance on hateful, offensive and derogatory content,” Schindler says. The company is also ensuring that fake creators – those who impersonate other channels – can’t host advertising. Schindler also says YouTube is “taking a hard look” at existing community guidelines to see if any content is allowed on the platform that shouldn’t be, though no action is promised.
Second, the company is promising better controls for advertisers to choose where their money goes, and to prevent accidentally spending it on hateful content. The default options for advertisers will be tightened, to exclude “potentially objectionable” content from the off. Advertisers themselves will be given account-level tools to exclude specific sites and channels from all of their campaigns at once, as well as more fine-tuned controls for when advertisers need specific say over where their ads appear.
Third, Schindler writes that advertisers and agencies will be offered “more transparency and visibility on where their ads are running”. That should help advertisers avoid awkward situations like those that prompted the boycott in the first place, where advertisers only discovered their ads were showing up on extremist content after a Times report. The Google executive also promises to hire “significant numbers of people”, as well as bring in new AI-powered tools, to increase the company’s capacity to review questionable content for advertising.
the first category is how they're targeting non-progressive political speech
how are they doing this?
quote:
So the company relies on tricks which do scale: algorithmically classifying videos, by scanning the titles and video content itself; relying on users to flag problematic uploads; and, in large part, by trusting creators themselves to correctly label their work. That trust is backed up by force, though, with YouTube reserving the right to pull channels entirely from the site if creators consistently miscategorise their work.
Jordan Peterson recently had his ENTIRE Google account deleted
i believe Gad Saad had a video reviewed before it was even published
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:37 am to SabiDojo
quote:
It does seem to oversimplify. Microcosms within cultures/groups mean different interests/ideas which means different needs in the market.
For example, an online gun broker would have more success on a hunting channel on YouTube than on the EverdayFeminism channel.
The fact that they are proactively and unilaterally deciding that no advertisers would find the content appealing is a lame arse cop out.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:37 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
The idea that they should only "monetize" content that generally seeks to appeal to everybody, seems rather short-sighted from a purely business perspective.
well, its partly because its easier to just demonetized it all rather than to pick and choose which advertisers are going to deem "okay"
itd be silly from a business perspective to not make more money off of Rubin, but that is what they are choosing to do
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
I think rubin gives a great interview and is incredibly non controversial.
it's amazing that a Bernie bro gets labeled a right winger simply for not being triggered by different opinions and having a pleasant disposition.
it's amazing that a Bernie bro gets labeled a right winger simply for not being triggered by different opinions and having a pleasant disposition.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:40 am to DelU249
let's also remember Google has banned Gab from its app store
buth muh "hate speech"
buth muh "hate speech"
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Jordan Peterson recently had his ENTIRE Google account deleted
I just saw that on the PJW vid you posted. Peterson can't even use fricking gmail because of his anti-authoritarian views
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:41 am to rocket31
quote:
well, its partly because its easier to just demonetized it all
So, all political videos should be demonetized, correct?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:42 am to rocket31
quote:
itd be silly from a business perspective to not make more money off of Rubin, but that is what they are choosing to do
They're choosing to do this because of the political ideologies held by a large portion of the company and to placate the screeching SJWs.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:44 am to Centinel
quote:
They're choosing to do this because of the political ideologies held by a large portion of the company and to placate the screeching SJWs.
theyre choosing to make less money while keeping his videos on their platform
advertisers are pulling the strings here, not youtube.
but even if was a big conspiracy theory and youtube is to blame, rubin can go elsewhere with his content
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:46 am to Centinel
quote:
They're choosing to do this because of the political ideologies held by a large portion of the company and to placate the screeching SJWs.
And it's a horribly short-sighted slippery slope. What are they going to do when right wing groups start breathing down the necks of advertisers about content they don't like?
I just don't see how you can present yourself for years as a forum generally open to all ideas and then suddenly think you can pick and choose what ideas you find "offensive" and think it will stop there and that's it.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News