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re: 'You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice”

Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28066 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:19 pm to
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Presidents are above the law, got it.

You aren't going to want me to mention executive privilege here, are you?

Or diplomatic immunity, fwiw

Sometimes there are things in the law, that put certain persons above it. Kinda like that whole 4th amendment thingy, huh?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:34 pm to
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You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice
Competent authorities can charge individuals with whatever the hell they want--even presidents. Whether it sticks or not is another matter.

I, for one, don't believe a sitting president can be lawfully indicted for any crime unless Congress first removes him from office.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Sometimes there are things in the law, that put certain persons above it.
Ha ha. That's true enough. But I love seeing a "small government" baw use it so conveniently. And casually.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:29 pm to
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Competent authorities can charge individuals with whatever the hell they want--even presidents.


quote:

Lawfully indicted


That’s impressive mental gymnastics even for you, I’m impressed
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Dershowitz is purposely leaving out the corrupt intent discussion.


Then post your evidence of Trump performing an illegal act like a bribe, instructing staff to lie, refusing a court order and ordering evidence to be destroyed or hidden.

I’m sure Mueller and his team would love to see it.

Because if that doesn’t exist, there’s no obstruction case to be made.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Then post your evidence of Trump performing an illegal act like a bribe, instructing staff to lie and ordering evidence to be destroyed.


Funny that the entire genesis of the witch hunt was firing Comey, who was actively obstructing justice, leaking to the press to “resist” Trump, and likely fabricating evidence and changing 302’s
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 7:37 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14283 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:02 pm to
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But the retards can downvote it

So you can never impeach a president because he can just fire everyone who is investigates him?

How many can he fire and still not be impeached? 3,4, maybe 5?

You can post this 100 times and piss and moan, and it still doesn't make it true.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:36 pm to
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Competent authorities can charge individuals with whatever the hell they want--even presidents. Whether it sticks or not is another matter.





And you go around telling us that the President can’t do whatever he wants.

A prosecutor who truly believes he can charge anything and do whatever he wants is a perversion of the justice system.

Pretty sad mental handwringing for you.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:38 pm to
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So you can never impeach a president because he can just fire everyone who is investigates him? How many can he fire and still not be impeached? 3,4, maybe 5? You can post this 100 times and piss and moan, and it still doesn't make it true.


Wow what a melt
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:42 pm to
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And you go around telling us that the President can’t do whatever he wants.
I challenge you to find me saying that. I'd bet your life you can't. I have a very esoteric understanding of what people can and can't do and a very amoral understanding of the nature of power.

Believe me.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14283 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:11 pm to
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Wow what a melt


Why didn't you write that same thing 5 times.

That's what you do normally do when you don't have anything worthwhile to post, just to re-emphasize the fact that you are mostly just a mindless dolt.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10421 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:41 pm to
I think the Latin proverb went "canimous surdis" (we sing to those who are deaf). In other words Strannix your wasting your breath on on the libs. Not that the libs ever cared about what is legal.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19122 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:29 pm to
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Presidents are above the law, got it.

No. You don't got it. Go back and listen to Dershowitz again. This time with your brain (small as it is) instead of your bias.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48934 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:53 am to
Which proceeding do you guys claim Teumo was obstructing? Which acts constitute that obstruction. I like to deal with specifics, especially when discussing criminal law...as the elements are pretty clear.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67528 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:10 am to
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Dershowitz

Is clearly the only Dem with a brain and no bias.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:10 am to
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We all know this and Im sure Mueller knows this and thanks to the memo we know the Russian collusion investigation is utter rubbish . So , what is Meuller doing then ? Even after the memo , Paul Ryan / Gowdy said the memo won't affect what Mueller is doing . WTF is he really doing ? Team Trump - probably


He could be building an obstruction case anyway. The next Congress would impeach Trump over it regardless of the constitutionality of it.

Washington is clearly just trying to rid itself of Trump.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:25 am to
It's true.

Like Nixon said "when the President does it, it means it's not illegal ".
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22026 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:28 am to
They are trying to get him on Obstruction of Politics
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80345 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:37 am to
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You should have learned this in high school.


He was out sick the day they taught Civics in Civics class.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119420 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:41 am to
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Presidents are above the law, got it.


What law?

Please elaborate. Seriously, please quote the statute.
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