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Would you vote for an open atheist for national political office?

Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:26 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:26 am
Even though this article is a little old, it gives some interesting stats about how Americans feel about candidates religious affiliations and their viewed trustworthiness.
It speaks to the issue of a growing secular America, but how we still use a candidates stated religious affiliations as a barometer on their trustworthiness.
One, if we as a nation are relying less on religion in our every day lives, why would it matter if a particular candidate was also less religious?
Two, would you ever vote for a national political candidate that was an open atheist?

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American politicians have always had a close relationship with religion, and despite the increasingly secular nature of US society, it is nearly unthinkable that a politician would openly identify themselves as an atheist. In new research, Scott Clifford and Ben Gaskins find that voters perceive religious candidates as being more trustworthy and moral and atheist candidates as less trustworthy and less moral. They write that when politicians remind people that they are religious, they are playing on Americans’ bias towards trusting and favoring the religious. In American politics, it is almost unheard of for a politician to identify as an atheist. Politicians of both major political parties have a long tradition of using religious language, imagery, and personal religious narratives in making their appeal to voters. Barack Obama does it. So do Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, George W. Bush, and even Donald Trump.




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The answer, we believe, has to do with implicit biases Americans have against the non-religious—specifically that religion implies trustworthiness. Those who explicitly reject religion —atheists—are among the most disliked social groups in America and recent research in psychology demonstrates that prejudice towards atheists is rooted in perceptions of their fundamental untrustworthiness and immorality.





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First, among respondents who were at least mildly religious and/or not extremely liberal, the religious candidate was perceived as significantly more trustworthy and moral than when no information was provided about the candidate’s religion. These respondents were also more willing to vote for the religious candidate, an effect that was again explained by perceptions of the candidate’s trustworthiness and moral character. The only respondents who view the religious candidate significantly less favorably were respondents who were both non-religious and politically to the extreme left, which represents a small swath of the electorate. The atheist candidate, on the other hand, was viewed less favorably and as less trustworthy among all respondents except for non-religious left-wingers.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 6:28 am
Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:28 am to
Depends what his or her other views were.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:29 am to
Over Hildabeast (does she really believe) or the dear leader (muslim or atheist), probably so.

Depends on their history of work.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:31 am to
I wouldn't care, as long as he/she wasn't one of those atheists that has to tell everyone constantly about their atheism or one of those atheists that holds Christianity in the same regard as Islam.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:33 am to
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or one of those atheists that holds Christianity in the same regard as Islam


Please explain?
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 6:36 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:36 am to
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Over Hildabeast (does she really believe) or the dear leader (muslim or atheist), probably so.


The same could be said for Trump.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:41 am to
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Please explain?



Christianity >>>> Islam , that's just a fact. So many liberals feel compelled to point out that Christians did bad things 700 years ago whenever some peaceful Muslim cuts someone's head off.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:45 am to
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Over Hildabeast (does she really believe) or the dear leader (muslim or atheist), probably so.


The same could be said for Trump.



Trump doesn't hate America, and he's not a puppet for Soros.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:46 am to
I would vote for a libertarian atheist in a heartbeat.

A statist, not so much.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:47 am to
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Trump doesn't hate America, and he's not a puppet for Soros.



The issue isn't about whether a person loves or hates America, but about their faith.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 6:47 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:49 am to
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Trump doesn't hate America, and he's not a puppet for Soros.



The issue isn't about whether a person loves or hates America, but about their faith.





It makes a big difference when one side is trying to destroy the country.

A person of true faith would not do what the dims have been trying to do.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:52 am to
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It makes a big difference when one side is trying to destroy the country. A person of true faith would not do what the dims have been trying to do.


But couldn't an atheist love the country and want it to prosper?
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 6:53 am
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:02 am to
I feel like you have some ulterior motives here but I completely think they'd be more than capable of holding political office.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:04 am to
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I feel like you have some ulterior motives here but I completely think they'd be more than capable of holding political office.


Ulterior motives?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:09 am to
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It makes a big difference when one side is trying to destroy the country. A person of true faith would not do what the dims have been trying to do.


But couldn't an atheist love the country and want it to prosper?



List your Top 3 atheist candidates.

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:11 am to
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List your Top 3 atheist candidates.


I don't have any, but you avoided my question
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:27 am to
Assuredly, the think tanks have long been on top of this issue, & have their publicly stated beliefs aligned with whatever the #s show their best chance of getting elected is.

Would take a proclaimed religious affiliation with a grain of salt with politicians.

Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church & he was preaching about America being "the enemy". You think he suddenly had a change of heart?
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:30 am to
I'd have no problem voting for an atheist for any political position except POTUS.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:30 am to
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But couldn't an atheist love the country and want it to prosper?


absolutely

but Shaft made the point I was thinking - we get idiots that tell us that because the "Christians" tried to take Jerusalem hundreds of years ago, or that men carried a Cross while they carried out racist acts 3 and 4 decades ago that Christians are "just as bad as Muslims" Or that "all religions have their radical hate groups"

ANYONE with that mindset - NO - will not vote for

There is a HUGE difference between radicals that want to cut my head off

trying to draw a comparison to make a political point is offensive; yet seems to be the new "mainstream" viewpoint - so if they have an axe to grind

frick them

if they want to help make America great again, and have a track record - then yes, could vote for them
Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:37 am to
This Atheist would have to be a Conservative
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