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Would Mike Flynn still be NSA if the real discussion he had with the Russians...

Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:58 pm
not been leaked?

The guy was bigly controversial...to many on the left and the right. Most folks from both sides sighed in relief when H. R. McMaster got the replacement job. I'm not certain it was a leftist who leaked...too many folks wanted Flynn's scalp. I, for one, am glad the guy is out of the WH. To the leaker!

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:00 pm to
Do you have the transcript of the discussion?
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:03 pm to
Nope...but Flynn admitted that he talked sanctions with the Russians after the facts of the leaked report ended up in the WSJ. This forced Trump's hand....why do you ask? You support Flynn?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:05 pm to
I'm ambivalent on Flynn. Don't really care that he's gone. But saying that Flynn talked sanctions means absolutely nothing without context.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:06 pm to
Help me out here. Why would it be strange for the subject of sanctions to come up with a possible member of the next Administration? I would fully expect the foreign leader to ask me about my team's View regarding the sanctions. I'd be stunned if it didn't happen.
Posted by GooseSix
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
I never liked Flynn.

However, I want the leaker identified and executed by firing squad...
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:08 pm to
Not strange at all. So why did he lie about it?
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
The Russians are the ones who likely leaked the info and were blackmailing Flynn.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
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Why would it be strange for the subject of sanctions to come up with a possible member of the next Administration?


Yeah, no one gave a shite about policy before an administration was sworn in when Obama did it in 08
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
Alright....here's your context. Flynn was called out for having talks with the Russian ambassador. He said it was a normal transition conversation and that he did not discuss easing sanctions with the Russians. Then...it comes out (through a leak) that the specifics of the conversation included discussions of easing sanctions...and the guy gets fired because of that. Are you being obtuse...just to be obtuse? LINK
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Why would it be strange for the subject of sanctions to come up with a possible member of the next Administration?


Because...we...as a country...were ratcheting up sanctions after their screwing around with our election. Then...the Russians turn around and go to the incoming administration (on the day the new sanctions were dropped) and say...what can y'all do for us about this? And...the guy they talk to...denies that they talked sanctions because it looks shitty and backhanded...and like quid pro quo. SO...if Flynn talking sanctions and denying wasn't a problem...why did Trump cut his throat and toss to the road?
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:15 pm to
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Nope...but Flynn admitted that he talked sanctions with the Russians after the facts of the leaked report ended up in the WSJ. This forced Trump's hand....why do you ask? You support Flynn?


That is not why he resigned. He did not tell Pence the truth.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

The Russians are the ones who likely leaked the info and were blackmailing Flynn.


Absolutely within the realm of possibility...but why would they leak it...if they thought they had an inside guy? No...it was a US leak...probably a Dem...but I don't doubt that GOPer did it.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

He did not tell Pence the truth.


Why not? He did nothing wrong!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:18 pm to
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Then...it comes out (through a leak) that the specifics of the conversation included discussions of easing sanctions
Did it come out that specifically discussed easing sanctions, or that they just discussed sanctions?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:19 pm to
I'm glad Flynn was booted if only to show the stark difference in this admin and the previous, given the controversy surrounding the latter's count of an NSA. That shady bitch was clearly way worse and has been protected and pampered like I've never seen.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:19 pm to
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Because...we...as a country...were ratcheting up sanctions after their screwing around with our election.
The Obama administration, as an administration, was ratcheting up sanctions because the democrat candidate lost.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 6:22 pm
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:20 pm to
quote:


Absolutely within the realm of possibility...but why would they leak it...if they thought they had an inside guy? No...it was a US leak...probably a Dem...but I don't doubt that GOPer did it.





If the Russians were taping conversions- and they were since everything is recorded in Russia - and Flynn was too stupid and discussed sanctions when he damned well better know you don't talk that with Russia...Russia has every cause to dump him. What use is working with a fool?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:38 pm to
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Did it come out that specifically discussed easing sanctions, or that they just discussed sanctions?
Would really like someone to ask this question. Preferable with a transcript of the conversation. I don't accept anonymous sources.
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