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Why have Obama and the Democrats allowed the Ebola crisis to go to waste?

Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:43 am
Seems like a missed opportunity. This is uncharacteristic of Obama and the Democrats. Usually they are on the ball and take full political advantage of crisis like this. Were they caught flat footed? Or, is this issue too difficult for them to juggle in terms of being politically correct?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:55 am to
Or because your beliefs are based on partisanship not reality?
Posted by BigJim
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:58 am to
I think they tried with whole "we would have a cure if it wasn't for the Repubs" nonsense.

I think they stopped because it blew up in their face. Lot's of people (not everyone, obviously) is truly concerned about Ebola and deflections aren't cutting it.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:58 am to


My beliefs?

That coming from a guy who supported the party of "never let a crisis go to waste".
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:06 pm to
1. You hate Milton Friedman as well, because he was a proponent of your phrase.

2. I am much more anti-R than pro-D.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

1. You hate Milton Friedman as well, because he was a proponent of your phrase.



If you say so.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Why have Obama and the Democrats allowed the Ebola crisis to go to waste?
Just because it didn't or hasn't affected you personally doesn't mean it didn't exist.

There was certainly a reason why this man-made disease was trotted out.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Just because it didn't or hasn't affected you personally doesn't mean it didn't exist.

There was certainly a reason why this man-made disease was trotted out.




It's 9/11 all over again
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:25 pm to
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There was certainly a reason why this man-made disease was trotted out.


You have been very quite during the great Ebola outbreak of 2014.
Is this our governments way of stealing someone's oil or a path towards some new world order shite?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Is this our governments way of stealing someone's oil or a path towards some new world order shite?




Only one way to protect yourself, Bitcoins Motherfricker
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:29 pm to
Maybe they learned not to use "Mission Accomplished" type rhetoric?

Still too early to call this a success. If it has been a success, politicians from both sides of the aisle will take credit however possible.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:30 pm to
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I think they tried with whole "we would have a cure if it wasn't for the Repubs" nonsense.

They did try. Dems aren't getting a great deal of traction these days with any of their usual and reliable lies.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Just because it didn't or hasn't affected you personally doesn't mean it didn't exist.


If you mean by "it" Ebola, then I never said it didn't exist. What doesn't exist was Obama's ability to take advantage of this crisis in a grand political fashion.

On the other hand I suppose you can say that the appointment of an Ebola Czar is taking advantage of the situation.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Just because it didn't or hasn't affected you personally doesn't mean it didn't exist.




If you mean by "it" Ebola, then I never said it didn't exist. What doesn't exist was Obama's ability to take advantage of this crisis in a grand political fashion.
What I meant was that you can be sure it didn't go to waste, and that you shouldn't assume it did simply because it didn't (or hasn't yet) affect you/us in an overt manner.

ETA: In other words, you could be jumping the gun a little with this thread.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Seems like a missed opportunity. This is uncharacteristic of Obama and the Democrats. Usually they are on the ball and take full political advantage of crisis like this. Were they caught flat footed? Or, is this issue too difficult for them to juggle in terms of being politically correct?


Republicans sure haven't.

[quote]"Using Ebola is part of an attempt to turn this into a national election and tie it to President Obama's performance," said Steven Schier, a politics professor at Carleton College in Minnesota. "If the Republicans can make this a national election, that makes it more dangerous for Democrats and could have a real effect up and down the ballot."

Read more: LINK ]
Posted by Plan 9
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Dems aren't getting a great deal of traction these days with any of their usual and reliable lies.


The "War On Women" is my favorite. Especially when Mayonnaise Head talks about it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

What I meant was that you can be sure it didn't go to waste, and that you shouldn't assume it did simply because it didn't (or hasn't yet) affect you/us in an overt manner.


I enjoy a good conspiracy every once and a while. TBH though I'm more concerned with "conspiracies" from nature than our government. Ebola is a legit concern IMO. Viruses should be a serious concern.

Another concern of mine is an EMP.

Those two are naturally occurring and can catch a population totally off guard. But I don't believe they fall into the conspiracy category, or do they?
Posted by BigJim
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Republicans sure haven't.


You got a few calls for travel bans from republicans, which isn't an unreasonable position. And a few mentions in some debates. I think most repubs are happy to run on Obamacare.

On the other hand (from your same link):

quote:

Ebola has been featured in a handful of ads. Democratic Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, fighting for re-election, aired a television ad in August criticizing Republican opponent Tom Cotton's House vote to cut funds for medical disaster programs.

A liberal group, the Agenda Project Action Fund, created a video of images of Republicans, including Roberts, Cotton and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, with images of body bags, medical workers in hazmat suits, and healthcare leaders decrying spending cuts.


And that claim is mostly bunk:

quote:

We should note that the NIH has only recorded how much its spending on particular research areas since 2010. Vox found a small decline in spending on Ebola research after 2010, to about $100 million. It dropped to $96 million after the sequester. However, the data to compare this to 2009 and earlier isn't available.


So the $4 million cut out of $100 million is the reason ebola is running wild?

So why don't we blame Bush?

quote:

Ebola research got a big boost in the early 2000s. Following the anthrax scare, the government put a lot of funding toward biodefense research, with the intention of protecting against dangerous pathogens like anthrax, smallpox and Ebola.


LINK /
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm more concerned with "conspiracies" from nature than our government. Ebola is a legit concern IMO. Viruses should be a serious concern.
Not sure how you can put a man-made disease in the category of "nature" but I'm much more concerned about these and high-tech "weapons" in the hands of those with enough money and power to not be held accountable for their actions than from anything nature has in store for me.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Republicans sure haven't.


That's what's so surprising about this Ebola "crisis". I would have thought Obama would have been front and center calling for more CDC funding knowing full well he wouldn't have received it and he could have indirectly blamed the entire Duncan ordeal on the Republicans. Missed opportunity.


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