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Why hasn't more been done to reign in the CIA/FBI?

Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:24 pm
We all sit back and see this bullshite on a day to day basis, case in point the hunter laptop that was turned over to them would have been very helpful to be exposed during the impeachment hearings, how is it that no FBI agent speaks up though?

The POTUS has oversight of these agencies, and nothing has improved there under his watch, in that regard he has failed himself and we the people.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:25 pm to
Trump has been incredibly weak on holding the intelligence agencies accountable.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:26 pm to
Because they actually rule this country and the politicians we elect.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:27 pm to
I don’t know what can be done

But it should bother EVERYONE that intel officials are interfering in our politics because they don’t like how the pres is conducting foreign policy

Military and law enforcement officials resisting and attempting to destabilize elected officials is what happens in Africa and other dysfunctional areas
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:30 pm to
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The POTUS has oversight of these agencies, and nothing has improved there under his watch, in that regard he has failed himself and we the people.


POTUS can’t Indict people. He’s not a King. The end.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:31 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53839 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:30 pm to
Because our entire ducking government is corrupt. If the FBI was a legitimate organization they would step in and arrest Joe Biden and remove him from the election. They are all fricking criminals. The FBI is a criminal racketeering operation!
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:31 pm to
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POTUS can’t Indict people. He’s not a King. The end.



Who said he had to fricking indict them? He can get in people that are loyal to him and the country though

What kind of stupid fricking reply is that anyways? Of course he can't indict them you dipshit, I care less about them being in jail than I do them fricking him and us all in the arse while in those positions though.

If you have nothing to post go somewhere else where they discuss mcdonald's drive through records or some shite
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:33 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:33 pm to
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POTUS can’t Indict people. He’s not a King.


POTUS can fire leadership and place good people that will uphold the law in their place. Wray is a disgrace yet still in office.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:35 pm to
In 1963 Truman said he wish he would never have created the CIA. He said it was our version of the SS.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:38 pm to
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He can get in people that are loyal to him and the country though


FBI and CIA directors have to pass Senate approval.

Burr, Graham, Mittens, Rubio, McConnell, etc would not support any nominee that wanted to reform the institutions from which these people draw their power. In fact, they came right out and told him they wouldn't approve any nominee at all in an election year, were he to fire Chris Wray (I remember this in the spring after impeachment, pre-Covid).
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6569 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:44 pm to
the last guy who tried this had his head turned into a canoe in front of hundreds of cheering onlookers
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:44 pm
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11713 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:49 pm to
Even if you cut the heads off of agencies like the FBI and DOJ you still have 1000s of bureaucratic underlings who have more power than ever intended. These people are accountable to no one, and are nearly impossible to fire. You would have to dissolve the agencies to purge them, and that is just not a viable option.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3688 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:50 pm to
Only the senate can confirm a new FBI director so essentially you have swamp confirming swamp and will just be a repeat of another worthless Sessions or Barr if Trump fires either one or both.

Yeah in that regard Trump is fricked as far as getting a decent AG or FBI director.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7855 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:01 am to
Clinton did reign in the CIA, so much so that 911 happened. We had no one working in the middle east or very few working.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
987 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:16 am to
We need modern day Church committee hearings followed up by cleaning house.

Hopefully this and breaking up Big Tech will be a big focus of Trump's second term.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13949 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:05 am to
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Even if you cut the heads off of agencies like the FBI and DOJ you still have 1000s of bureaucratic underlings who have more power than ever intended. These people are accountable to no one, and are nearly impossible to fire. You would have to dissolve the agencies to purge them, and that is just not a viable option.


It's becoming more viable every day. Any time these agencies get to the point where their very presence is more of a threat to this country than their lack of presence would be you get to the point of viability for this idea.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 1:22 am
Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
2699 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:08 am to
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Clinton did reign in the CIA, so much so that 911 happened. We had no one working in the middle east or very few working.


Tim Osman prefers to work alone.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6081 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:13 am to
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Because they actually rule this country and the politicians we elect.
My theory is that they have dirt on most government officials, and turn a blind eye for a percentage of the graft.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13379 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:54 am to
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Clinton did reign in the CIA, so much so that 911 happened. We had no one working in the middle east or very few working.


True Vodka. In fact I saw Clinton on Letterman after the presidency and Letterman made light of the job Bush had done with 9-11, it was one of the only times I ever saw Bill get pissed. He told Letterman to STFU if the public had any idea what else had been thwarted they would be amazed.

He also said it was one of his only regrets, cutting back on intel, he said Reagan and then Bush senior believed there were spies behind every corner, old school stuff, and cut back on it.....and THEY were right there were buuggy men everywhere.
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