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Why does Trump think the coal industry will make a comeback?

Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:09 pm
The coal industry has been in decline for decades. Its just plain inefficient. Machines have taken most of the coal jobs, not government restrictions. The cheap extraction cost of natural gas has left the coal industry in the dust.

My biggest problem with trump is his energy plan. Its archaic and obsolete.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:12 pm to
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while countries like Germany and the Netherlands are thriving in technology driven energy fields like wind, solar, hydro and nuclear




Germany banned nuclear energy. or at least very recently decided to being a phase out of it
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:12 pm to
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My biggest problem with trump is his energy plan. Its archaic and obsolete. There is so much potential in alternative energy



Lol.

That's why every economist and financial analyst worth their salt thinks energy prices are about to fall off a cliff with him bringing back coal....

Because alternative energy is cheaper

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52996 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:13 pm to
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behind the curve while countries like Germany and the Netherlands are thriving

are they using rapefugee power?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:15 pm to
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Why does Trump think the coal industry will make a comeback?


He doesn't really think that.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:15 pm to
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wind, solar,


Lol

quote:

hydro


China is leading almost everyone


And unless we spend trillions on infrastructure we will fall further behind in this category.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:18 pm to
Is it going to "come back?" Probably not.

But whether it does or not, it's better to let try and fail, than to force it to fail via government.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21845 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:18 pm to
Totes agree, we should just, like, use solar energy to run the economy and keep groceries in stock and gas ready to be pumped- or I supposed solar panels ready to be renewed
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:19 pm to
Why is that funny?

My electric in Houston is powered by entirely by wind energy. Rich Perry whom trump named secretary of Energy Dept made great strides to substantial increase wind energy in Texas during his term as govennor.

Have you ever left Louisiana?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:21 pm to
Coal is great in theory. Jobs. Energy. Sounds fantastic.

So which beautiful city would like to volunteer to boost the coal industry with plants? There's no such thing as "clean coal." Coal comes with a price and that price is shitty air in your city. I'm all for coal - just not in my city.

This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:24 pm to
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Have you ever left Louisiana?


I try to not go there. But when I have I try to leave quickly.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:24 pm to
Because China plants are the same as the US....and a single plant produces less CO2 than a volcanic eruption does in 10 seconds.

If you're curious....look how many eruptions happen DAILY!
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:26 pm to
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Because China plants are the same as the US....and a single plant produces less CO2 than a volcanic eruption does in 10 seconds.

If you're curious....look how many eruptions happen DAILY!




Those eruptions happen every day, nonstop, in the same city?

I'm not anti-coal. I'm as pro-industry and manufacturing as it gets. I'm just being honest about "clean coal."
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:27 pm to
If that plant were in the US it would have miles of scrubbers coming off that thing looking like an octopus and you wouldn't know it was there by looking at the sky.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:28 pm to
So we just shouldn't care at all because there's nothing we can do about it?

Shouldn't we instead focus our efforts on R&D? Try and stay competitive with China?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:28 pm to
Really? Your argument is "have you ever left Louisiana"? Thank you for putting your ignorance on display.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:28 pm to
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So which beautiful city would like to volunteer to boost the coal industry with plants? There's no such thing as "clean coal." Coal comes with a price and that price is shitty air in your city. I'm all for coal - just not in my city.


So you don't agree with exporting coal mined in the USA even?

I suppose you're not wanting to build more prisons either since you're NIMBY. Nor nuclear power plants, again, NIMBY. Landfills? Toxic Waste plants? More NIMBY. Yet all the so-called green energy stuff makes a whole lotta toxic waste to produce the hardware for panels, batteries, etc.. Rare earth materials for green energy make the net a negative for the environment. But hey, you're NIMBY anyway.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:28 pm to
Then be honest. My numbers were the life of a plant versus minutes of a volcanic eruption.

To be perfectly honest one of the biggest sources of anthropogenic CO2 is by the mowing of lawns and decaying plant matter
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

So you don't agree with exporting coal mined in the USA even?

I suppose you're not wanting to build more prisons either since you're NIMBY. Nor nuclear power plants, again, NIMBY. Landfills? Toxic Waste plants? More NIMBY. Yet all the so-called green energy stuff makes a whole lotta toxic waste to produce the hardware for panels, batteries, etc.. Rare earth materials for green energy make the net a negative for the environment. But hey, you're NIMBY anyway.



The discussion is about coal. So whatever you're saying that has nothing to do with coal, has nothing to do with the discussion.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:31 pm to
He doesn't care, he just said shite to get elected. The coal bubbas need to pick up a wrench and learn how a compressor works since coal country is smack in the middle of the Marcellus & Utica.
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