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re: Why do liberals hate america?

Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:32 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:32 am to


-see my sig quote
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:33 am to
quote:

quote:
Why do liberals hate america?


It's like white guilt only on a national level.

American guilt.

/thread

Exactly. That's what it boils down to.
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:33 am to
Last I checked it was you guys who rooted against America's success for eight years.
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:34 am to
Their Supreme being is their Government. Anything that threatens it is an a threat to their beliefs system.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:34 am to
Do conservatives hate liberals more than they love America?
Posted by HippieTiger
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:34 am to
I hated America before Trump for whatever that is worth
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:34 am to
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you cant disenfranchise anyone thats eligible,


But you can change the eligibility rules.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:35 am to
on a serious level, a major undercurrent in the progressive mindset is that since the US is doing so well (speaking internationally), we had to cheat in some way to get to that status. this is where the anti-Western culture vein emerged in progressives (b/c those values are how we "keep winning"). SO how do you combat the status of the US? attack those values and attack our status by promoting redistribution, both domestically and internationally, to "make up" for the past "cheating"
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:38 am to
Let's see if you are sane today. I'm willing to discuss this.

What do you call an illegal voter voting that cancels out a legal and valid vote? That vote was basically taken away from the legal voter if the illegal voter voted for the opposite candidate.

If that's not disenfranchisement then what would you call it? I'll be happy to use your word when discussing this. Just tell me what it is we are going to use.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:39 am to
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I hated America before Trump for whatever that is worth

so fricking move somewhere better.



ooooh, thats right. there is nowhere better.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140686 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:40 am to
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I hated America before Trump for whatever that is worth


It's worth what someone will pay you for it. Good luck.
Posted by redfishfan
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:47 am to
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Last I checked it was you guys who rooted against America's success for eight years.


As somebody that didn't vote for either candidate in 2012 I wanted desperately for America to succeed. Instead I got worse insurance for higher premiums. An economy that is stagnant. More Americans than ever on food stamps and a doubling of the National Debt. FYI I didn't vote for Trump but so far I'm regretting that decision. He's doing a good job thus far.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:51 am to
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- strengthened economy, reducing red tape, bringing back jobs


I think you actually believe this, which is sorta scary.
Posted by HippieTiger
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:54 am to
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there is nowhere better


I'll move to BC eventually, as Canada is indeed better
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:55 am to
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as Canada is indeed better


white privilege
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:56 am to
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He's doing a good job thus far.
Based on what exactly? His tweets? Or his cuts that address none of the actual cost drivers of the deficit?

Posted by HeavyD
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:57 am to
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Last I checked it was you guys who rooted against America's success for eight years.


I always want America to be successful.

I have been in the work force for 25 years and have been laid off twice under Obama. I was able to find work, but had to take a pay cut.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:59 am to
And you blame Obama for these struggles I take it?

Will you be holding Mr. Trump so directly responsible for whatever happens to you in the next 4-8?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:01 am to
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Based on what exactly? His tweets? Or his cuts that address none of the actual cost drivers of the deficit?


Immediately cutting waste
Going ahead with the pipeline
Being business friendly which is keeping and creating jobs
Repealing ACA
Withdrew from TPP
Stopped money from going to overseas abortion clinics
Freeze on federal hiring
James Mattis
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78262 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:03 am to
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strengthened economy, reducing red tape, bringing back jobs


I think you actually believe this, which is sorta scary.


did he not say he's going to cut red tape by 75%? you think he won't try?

did the dow not just hit 20k? you think it would be 20k today if hillary had been elected?

do you think carrier would have given a damn about those 1000 jobs if hillary were going in? how about other companies on the fence about moving to other countries?

you are awfully cynical if you think these things would happen if hillary were in office today hobbling around taking naps and avoiding public appearances.
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