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Why do liberals continue to support open borders if they claim it's not for votes?

Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Rekrul
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:06 pm
Honest question, why? Epic failures all over Europe as a result of the same things you want in America. Why would you want that here?

And if that's what you want, wouldn't it be easier for you to just move there so you can enjoy your beliefs? I mean, they let everyone in so don't give me that as an excuse
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:08 pm to
Because they want the votes.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:09 pm to
Mostly because I'm smart enough to understand that I am more likely to die from a falling Christmas tree than at the hands of terrorists, and I care about the well being of people enough to not let the unlikely threat of terrorism change my mind about their well being.
Posted by white beans
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:10 pm to
They hate white conservative christians.

They also want to exploit the immigrants economically, established citizens are wise to them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:11 pm to
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Mostly because I'm smart enough to understand that I am more likely to die from a falling Christmas tree than at the hands of terrorists,


Open the borders that probably changes
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:12 pm to
Thats just dumb.
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:12 pm to
Because liberals want to believe Islam is just another religion but has been unjustly targeted. They pay zero attention to the fact most believe in Sharia, that being gay is illegal, and Muslim women are the most oppressed women in the world. A Gay liberal woman would be raped, lashed and killed in the ME.

But please let's fight for this awesome religion and centuries of imposed oppression thru Islam on women
Posted by Rover Range
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:13 pm to
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Mostly because I'm smart enough to understand that I am more likely to die from a falling Christmas tree than at the hands of terrorists, and I care about the well being of people enough to not let the unlikely threat of terrorism change my mind about their well being.



Glad you have such a heart for being a humanitarian. But let me ask you, why is the place they're coming from in such shambles? And if the people are leaving there to better their lives like you say, then why are the places they're moving to becoming shitholes?
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:13 pm to
So the violent crimes committed against American citizens at the hands of terrorists and illegal aliens is at an acceptable level to you? Please tell me what your unacceptable level is
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:18 pm to
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Mostly because I'm smart enough to understand that I am more likely to die from a falling Christmas tree than at the hands of terrorists, and I care about the well being of people enough to not let the unlikely threat of terrorism change my mind about their well being.


Why is it that all the neighboring countries, some of which are incredibly wealthy and sparsely populated, do not offer refuge to these people?

Most of the decent, honest refugees want to stay in their home country. Maybe we should help them in that way instead of bringing them over here
Posted by shamrock
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:19 pm to
How many Syrians you got living with you baw? Y'all hit the clubs on the weekend or just play Call of Duty in the den?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:20 pm to
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So the violent crimes committed against American citizens at the hands of terrorists and illegal aliens is at an acceptable level to you? Please tell me what your unacceptable level is


Violent crimes committed against American citizens at the hands of other American citizens is happening at a rate so exponentially higher that I'm not sure it could actually be calculated.

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Please tell me what your unacceptable level is


Probably when the rate of death at the hand of terrorists exceeds the rate of death at the hand of falling televisions and lightning strikes, or being kicked to death by cattle maybe.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:21 pm to
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How many Syrians you got living with you baw? Y'all hit the clubs on the weekend or just play Call of Duty in the den?


I wish. That'd be pretty cool.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Because liberals want to believe Islam is just another religion but has been unjustly targeted. They pay zero attention to the fact most believe in Sharia, that being gay is illegal, and Muslim women are the most oppressed women in the world. A Gay liberal woman would be raped, lashed and killed in the ME. 

But please let's fight for this awesome religion and centuries of imposed oppression thru Islam on women.
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Rakim
Former Muslim?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Most of the decent, honest refugees want to stay in their home country. Maybe we should help them in that way instead of bringing them over here


I agree with this. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It's not like I'm advocating for going and recruiting them to come here.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Mostly because I'm smart enough to understand that I am more likely to die from a falling Christmas tree than at the hands of terrorists


Also, are you denying the fact that Europe has had a significant increase in terror attacks since they've softened their borders?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:26 pm to
Because everything should be free and it should be available to the poor people born south of the border, and across oceans.

Even though they scream about how this country has gone to shite, they sure want to invite everyone into the shite house.

When have liberals ever made sense though
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:26 pm to
Who supports "open borders?"

Since when is there a desire to completely open our borders and let whoever come who wants to just wander in? Is that a thing? The only people I hear even mentioning that are the Far Right.

Please show me where anyone is advocating for "open borders."

Recognizing that we haven't enforced immigration law for 30 years and you have children and families caught in the middle is not wanting "open borders."
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:26 pm to
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Also, are you denying the fact that Europe has had a significant increase in terror attacks since they've softened their borders?


From January of 2006 through the end of 2016, there were a total of 7 documented terror attacks in Europe.

I will concede that the most recent ones have been very bad, and have garnered a lot of media attention.

However, the overall number is still incredibly low.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:28 pm to
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Violent crimes committed against American citizens at the hands of other American citizens is happening at a rate so exponentially higher that I'm not sure it could actually be calculated.


Oh so that excuses a couple hundred thousand crimes a year, I'm sure the victims and their families shrug it off as well. Wtf is wrong with you people??
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