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Why do folks who left their own country, get to lecture/influence our politics?

Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:00 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:00 pm
John Oliver (UK)
Trevor Noah (S. Africa)
Samantha Bee (Canada)
Jorge Ramos (Mex)
Rupert Murdoch (Australia)
George Soros (Hungary)
Sharon Osburne (UK)
Indra Nooyi (India)
Christiane Amanpour (UK)
Mort Zuckerman (Canada)
Haim Saban (Egypt)
Sergey Brin (Ukraine)
Peter Thiel (Germany)
Elon Musk (S. Africa)
Madonna (now in the UK)


Just seems like they are naturally unhappy people and cant find happiness anywhere? So why do they get a voice in American politics?

And how many Americans are allowed voices in their countries to influence politics?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:02 pm to
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Why do folks who left their own country, get to lecture/influence our politics?

Bc we give them a voice by acknowledging them; ignore them and they go away....I promise.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:03 pm to
Why is Celine Dion allowed to stay in the U.S. for like, forever, when she's a Canadian citizen? For that matter, why do we allow Justin Bieber into the country?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Bc we give them a voice by acknowledging them; ignore them and they go away....I promise.



Liberals believe the same thing about terrorism. I would argue it isn't true in either case.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:12 pm to
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Liberals believe the same thing about terrorism. I would argue it isn't true in either case.

Remember Octomom? Neither does anyone else
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Bc we give them a voice by acknowledging them; ignore them and they go away....I promise.

Oh, how I wish that were true. If so, Stephen Colbert would have been cancelled a long time ago. Some people are given voices specifically because of what they are saying, not due to the size of the audience they attract
Posted by Pussykat
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:15 pm to
Don't forget Cattie Cay
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:54 pm to
Is that a trick question?
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:55 pm to
Are all of them naturalized American citizens? If so, then I see no reason to prohibit them from participating in the political process. Feel free to ignore them if you'd like. But saying that Americans should not be allowed to participate in American politics is fundamentally un-American.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:55 pm to
Interesting to get an outsiders perspective.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:56 pm to
Why did you leave out Milo? He's a bigger shite stirrer than any of these people.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 2:01 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:57 pm to
Don't forget Tatiana Wright. I'll listen to her opinions anytime she wants me too.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:42 pm to
Because this is a supposedly free country.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:47 pm to
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Because this is a supposedly free country.

But most of these are the first ones to toss the racists. homophobes, xenophobe labels.

Which they damn sure couldn't get away with at home. Nor could an American do it there, either.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:48 pm to
Hmm. Where's Milo?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:53 pm to
How many of those are US Citizens now?

If you're a US citizen, chime away.

If you pay US taxes even though you're from elsewhere, I'm also ok with you chiming away.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Why did you leave out Milo? He's a bigger shite stirrer than any of these people.

Actually didn't think of him, but what exactly is his platform to influence or lecture. Because twitter took away his personal account.

Most of the list has a platform, or title that comes with influence. I view Milo as no different than DeRay. Just curious as to how Milo would qualify to be on that list?
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:26 pm to
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but what exactly is his platform to influence or lecture.

Well, AFAIK he's still an editor on Breitbart and he seems to be raking in the bucks on the college lecture circuit peddling his half-baked libertarianism.

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Because twitter took away his personal account

He was suspended multiple times before he hanged himself with the rope they gave him.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:36 pm to
They have no loyalty to America.

They use her to leverage whatever they can in their tiny lifespans for personal gain. They have no affinity for it, they are interlopers
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27878 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:25 pm to
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They use her to leverage whatever they can in their tiny lifespans for personal gain.

That's the thing. Each of them came over on Visas, then decided to become citizens. They came into a system that helped them profit, then they turned on that very system, because it wasnt giving out more freebies. Which is not at all the country they came to, and was able to find success in!

In Madonna case she left the US to go to the UK, which is 91% white. And then wants to call the US a bunch of racists
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