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why are we Israels Army? and helping them expand?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:26 pm
LINK
15 minute video that got me to thinking its graphic in its war time depictions, but also has Trump Speaking To the Jewish US Citizens, as well as a Marine who defected and other intriguing and mind opening info. To grasp my thread probably need to watch that video. cant verify its credibility
a population of apprx 2% of US americans share a religion with the country? but why do we send so much technology/tax payer money/ war machines to them?
Why are we so linked to them? why should we worry about what goes on there? this all stems from 9/11 why were these alleged terrorists mad at us in the first place? for supporting Israel, who is bombing them.
Im newly reading information and would like differing opinion to help me understand why my country and military is carrying out these acts.
why have we destabilized all of the surrounding countries?
am I an idiot? for reference into my mindset.
Im not anti Israel or pro Islam. Im pro US, and i supported and voted for PEOTUS TRUMP. (im Married to a confirmed catholic, I was raised Church Of Christ and identify as agnostic) have no problem with anyones personal beliefs.
However, appointing military generals, 3 Goldman Sachs financiers, and an exxon mobile SoS is alarming to me. and I didnt realize the US and Trump were so connected and ivested in Israel prior to the election.
The radical Islamic people who are pissed off their countries are bombed seem to have reason to be pissed off. These palestinians are walled off in their own country and need to ask for permission to freely move.. and then they are bombed by israel within their own walled in area.
Then we collapse (or help over throw) governments that are hostile to Israel. Them being hostile to israel because of israels aggresiveness, human rights violations, and clear desire to expand the empire and borders of israel.
Now it seems Iran is pro actively taking measures to protect themselves from this incoming expansion by enriching uranium and developing nuclear devices to protect themselves from this expansion and collapse happening around them.
If it was my country I would want protection as well. And I certainly dont want Iran going down in flames creating nuclear war in the world with the US and others.
And everytime i turn on tv, twitter, other medias its these crazy rapes, murders, sharia law wanting, wife beating muslims.
Which seem bad but I never hear about philanthropic deeds of Saudia Arabians .... are all of them evil. and I should except that and lets sacrifice are own people and money to wipe them off the face of the earth.. For the greater good and to prevent future attacks on US? or could this money and powerful typically israeli friendly Media in the US be pushing the intolerable radical islamic acts as the normal... like Propaganda.
the media did that with Police on black crimes, publicizing the few crazy cases that dont represent the normal percentages of these incidents. Which led to BLM movement. so the media does this type of thing regularly.
This crazy immigration issue is because we destabalized these areas with Israel or on their behalf... and now they have nowhere to go their homeland is overthrown and blown up.
Sorry For HUGE WALL of text and Random stream of conciousness, but any input opinions of those smarter than me care to hop in or give input?
is this Topic to Taboo?
15 minute video that got me to thinking its graphic in its war time depictions, but also has Trump Speaking To the Jewish US Citizens, as well as a Marine who defected and other intriguing and mind opening info. To grasp my thread probably need to watch that video. cant verify its credibility
a population of apprx 2% of US americans share a religion with the country? but why do we send so much technology/tax payer money/ war machines to them?
Why are we so linked to them? why should we worry about what goes on there? this all stems from 9/11 why were these alleged terrorists mad at us in the first place? for supporting Israel, who is bombing them.
Im newly reading information and would like differing opinion to help me understand why my country and military is carrying out these acts.
why have we destabilized all of the surrounding countries?
am I an idiot? for reference into my mindset.
Im not anti Israel or pro Islam. Im pro US, and i supported and voted for PEOTUS TRUMP. (im Married to a confirmed catholic, I was raised Church Of Christ and identify as agnostic) have no problem with anyones personal beliefs.
However, appointing military generals, 3 Goldman Sachs financiers, and an exxon mobile SoS is alarming to me. and I didnt realize the US and Trump were so connected and ivested in Israel prior to the election.
The radical Islamic people who are pissed off their countries are bombed seem to have reason to be pissed off. These palestinians are walled off in their own country and need to ask for permission to freely move.. and then they are bombed by israel within their own walled in area.
Then we collapse (or help over throw) governments that are hostile to Israel. Them being hostile to israel because of israels aggresiveness, human rights violations, and clear desire to expand the empire and borders of israel.
Now it seems Iran is pro actively taking measures to protect themselves from this incoming expansion by enriching uranium and developing nuclear devices to protect themselves from this expansion and collapse happening around them.
If it was my country I would want protection as well. And I certainly dont want Iran going down in flames creating nuclear war in the world with the US and others.
And everytime i turn on tv, twitter, other medias its these crazy rapes, murders, sharia law wanting, wife beating muslims.
Which seem bad but I never hear about philanthropic deeds of Saudia Arabians .... are all of them evil. and I should except that and lets sacrifice are own people and money to wipe them off the face of the earth.. For the greater good and to prevent future attacks on US? or could this money and powerful typically israeli friendly Media in the US be pushing the intolerable radical islamic acts as the normal... like Propaganda.
the media did that with Police on black crimes, publicizing the few crazy cases that dont represent the normal percentages of these incidents. Which led to BLM movement. so the media does this type of thing regularly.
This crazy immigration issue is because we destabalized these areas with Israel or on their behalf... and now they have nowhere to go their homeland is overthrown and blown up.
Sorry For HUGE WALL of text and Random stream of conciousness, but any input opinions of those smarter than me care to hop in or give input?
is this Topic to Taboo?
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:36 pm
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Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:32 pm to HailFreezusOver
Israel acts like Nazi Germany because they figure we will back stop them.
We need to leave them to sink or swim.
We need to leave them to sink or swim.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:39 pm to WhiskeyPapa
why is it when one questions Israels intent in the middle east and or their actions
You are labeled Nazi.
Its like someone being called a racist to end or get a foot up in an arguement.
Is this how the media and others squash the general publics opinions on the middle east?
you question things pertaining to Israel... Are you some kind of Nazi fascist?
seems like population suppression and fear mongering, Right?
You are labeled Nazi.
Its like someone being called a racist to end or get a foot up in an arguement.
Is this how the media and others squash the general publics opinions on the middle east?
you question things pertaining to Israel... Are you some kind of Nazi fascist?
seems like population suppression and fear mongering, Right?
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:40 pm to HailFreezusOver
Same reason we are Saudi Arabia's army.
$$$
$$$
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:42 pm to HailFreezusOver
Very important strategic partner, but the shite they get away with should be called out at some point.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:45 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Israel seems to have their claws so deep into US, and influence them through positions in government, CIA Etc.
that they can do what they want and we will somehow defend them no matter what they do? they arent part of The United States, arent a territory? why create these pacts or alliances with israel? what does that benefit us? and pouring huge amoutns of my and other fellow americans money into ISrael.. with War Technology and weapons.
Im with you we need to drain the swamp.. dissasociate from them.
However, have we sunk ourselves so deep in this conflict now that we have to see it through... or let the next generation rise up and learn to hate the US for our past transgressions?
that they can do what they want and we will somehow defend them no matter what they do? they arent part of The United States, arent a territory? why create these pacts or alliances with israel? what does that benefit us? and pouring huge amoutns of my and other fellow americans money into ISrael.. with War Technology and weapons.
Im with you we need to drain the swamp.. dissasociate from them.
However, have we sunk ourselves so deep in this conflict now that we have to see it through... or let the next generation rise up and learn to hate the US for our past transgressions?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:48 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:
Our finest young people killed for Israeli ends -- not ours.
My main concern. I love my military and them protecting The US. why fight and die for another countries benefit. With no compensation or strategical gain.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:48 pm to HailFreezusOver
It's crazy how blind our support of Israel is. It's a one way relationship too. We mostly just give and sacrifice for them and in turn we give and sacrifice more.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:50 pm to HailFreezusOver
frick Israel. For once I just want our government to tell them to piss up a rope and fight their own wars and battles. Instead they are the bully in the middle east and hide behind us. It's like a kid who starts shite at the playground and gets away with it because his dad is the principal.
The problem is that we have too many dual citizens in our government who have both Israeli and American citizenship.
The problem is that we have too many dual citizens in our government who have both Israeli and American citizenship.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:50 pm to HailFreezusOver
I am relatively New too the political board.
Do all topics on Israel/middle east get downvoted
or is it because of the wall of text?
or the Video showing my president elected vow to the Jewish people?
Do all topics on Israel/middle east get downvoted
or is it because of the wall of text?
or the Video showing my president elected vow to the Jewish people?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:51 pm to HailFreezusOver
quote:
why is it when one questions Israels intent in the middle east and or their actions
You are labeled Nazi.
Its like someone being called a racist to end or get a foot up in an arguement.
People don't want to admit the truth
They think that you are not a real Christian if you do not get on your knees for Israel
I'm a Christian and despise Israel
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:56 pm to HailFreezusOver
It's anti-semitic to ask questions.
You must be crushed.
You must be crushed.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:57 pm to goldennugget
We give Israel over $3 billion annually in aid to purchase weapons solely from U.S. defense contractors. The whole "ally" thing is a ruse to fatten the pockets of companies that donate large sums of money to politicians and eventually hire them after they retire. Fleecing the taxpayers for billions and scaring the hell out out of the American public simultaneously.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:59 pm to SCLibertarian
I get called an anti Semite and Nazi each time I criticize Israel and our relationship with them but I don't care anymore. The facts are the facts and our relationship with Israel is a bad deal. A tiny country in the middle east practically controls us, the supposed most powerful country on earth.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:59 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Corpopral Jason Dunham won the Medal of Honor posthumously in 2004 by absorbing the blast of a grenade that threatened his friends.
Corporal Jennifer Parcell was 20 when she was blown up by a suicide bomber in Iraq 2007. As a private first class she won a Humanitarian Services Medal for service in Pakistan.
Captain Jennifer Harris' CH-46 was hit by an RPG in 2007. She and many others died in the crash.
Sergeant Rafael Peralta was killed shielding his Friends from a grenade blast as they were clearing a building.
When are we going to stop sending our young people to die for Israel?
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:01 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Correct. They all died on Israels behalf. It makes me ill.
Why do we do it. Many reasons. Follow the money. Too many entities profit from Never Ending war in the middle east. That's why America does it. Israel gets a cut of those profits, plus they also have the long term goal of Greater Israel. So they drag the US Military into the middle east to clear the field.
Why do we do it. Many reasons. Follow the money. Too many entities profit from Never Ending war in the middle east. That's why America does it. Israel gets a cut of those profits, plus they also have the long term goal of Greater Israel. So they drag the US Military into the middle east to clear the field.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:01 pm to goldennugget
i Saw an interview with someone recently Roger Stone or stefan Molyneux?
anyway he brought up this dual citizenship of ISraeli US Citizens, and he was completely against it.
he said it was outrageous no one gets two passports etc, his opinion was force them into one citizenship.
This dual citizsenship allows them to work and move feely between the two so we should severe that first if we hope to seperate ourselves from these conflicts.
but the uproar in Hollywood and Congress would be huge.
from my own experience the Jewish community like to push their children into the Law, Politics, acting, directing movies, and journalism/media ... as well as Doctors
it seems to me this keeps the small relative population % having a stronger than representative influence.
anyway he brought up this dual citizenship of ISraeli US Citizens, and he was completely against it.
he said it was outrageous no one gets two passports etc, his opinion was force them into one citizenship.
This dual citizsenship allows them to work and move feely between the two so we should severe that first if we hope to seperate ourselves from these conflicts.
but the uproar in Hollywood and Congress would be huge.
from my own experience the Jewish community like to push their children into the Law, Politics, acting, directing movies, and journalism/media ... as well as Doctors
it seems to me this keeps the small relative population % having a stronger than representative influence.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:17 pm to goldennugget
quote:
Correct. They all died on Israels behalf. It makes me ill.
Yes. And Israel has stopped seeking a peaceful solution.
That cannot be stressed enough.
When will we get tired of our dead service people, their bereaved parents, their widowed spouses and their orphaned children sucked into an open maw of death that makes money for the Defense Industry while Israel has carte Blanche to pursue its policies paid for with our blood?
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:08 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:Yep. It was Wolfowitz who headed the WMD propaganda.
POS Wolfowitz wanted to attack Iraq on 9/12/01. But we know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
And he never gets mentioned by the media in relation to it. I watched an HBO documentary on Cheney, and they spent more than half of it on Iraq. Every person Cheney so much as shook hands with was mentioned, but not Wolfowitz, the one most responsible - moreso than Cheney.
Funny, ain't it?
Everyone I know who's been to Israel has been taken aback by what ethnocentric pieces of shite they are. And for all of our support, they spy on us and steal our nuclear technology. They are the worst kind of miserable creatures,
BTW, notice that there haven't been any major incidents in Israel ever since ISIS started running around the area.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:14 pm to HailFreezusOver
quote:
a population of apprx 2% of US americans share a religion with the country? but why do we send so much technology/tax payer money/ war machines to them?
Why are we so linked to them? why should we worry about what goes on there?
"there" is the Holy Land. Jesus' birth country.
Chosen People. the bible tells me so.
linked by the Bible, and Jesus.
Israelis finish in the top 4 or 5 of new patents and they have few people.
Nobel prizes in medical science.
Israel, 8 million
Since 1966, there have been 12 Israeli persons who were awarded Nobel Prize.
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