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Why are Blacks considered a major voting demographics in modern elections?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:42 am
Blacks make up roughly 13% of the population. It could be argued that one of the reasons they remain a protected group is that even with solid consensus, they can not influence a presidential election by significant margin without white support.
To top it off, they mostly reside in states that are mostly the opposite of their current party.
I think this board is disingenuous about the SS and how it literally created modern politics in the US.
Here is something off another forum regarding the Southern Strategy.
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The basic history is that The Democratic Party was largely the South around the time of the civil war, and the new Republican party was largely the 'north'.
The Republicans' first president, Lincoln, 'freed the slaves', and blacks' loyalty was set for decades to come.
The whole nation was basically racist this whole time. Not as much as the south, but quite racist, and the parties were not far apart on it.
Up through the 50's, both parties had a claim to the black vote. The Democrats' northern faction had some more pro-black activities - appointing black judges, integrating the military - but it also had the boweevils, the racist Southern Democrats who filibustered civil rights bills. This was the case headed into the JFK-Nixon elections.
Starting then, JFK called Martin Luther King's wife while he was in jail, symbolically showing support for the blacks - but quite cautiously. While president, he changed a lot on the issue and became with his brother a leader for civil rights. He was the first president to tell the nation it was a moral issue. This was where Democrats sided with blacks; in the 60's, this also led to the black riots. Republicans chose to use the issue for themselves by siding with whites and racists against blacks.
This was called the 'Southern Strategy' in the Nixon campaign. LBJ had said when he signed the civil rights bill that he'd handed the White House to Republicans for many years to come; Republicans made sure of it. This was 'dog whistle' politics, and the end of the 'Solid South', which further became and largely stayed Republican with Reagan (who began his campaign with a states' rights (code for anti-civil rights)speech in Mississippi where civil rights had been killed.
This is the modern history; since Reagan, Republicans have been the party of the rich, while Democrats had launched the war on poverty and helped the poor.
Why Blacks are a constituency for Democrats
PS. Oh and by the way, I think that most of you have an issue with "progressivism" and not really liberalism. I don't think the modern Dems are classical liberals in their practices.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:43 am to volod
When 94% of a demographic vote for one party, it's important to said party.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:43 am to volod
I'd say because they all vote one way or the other. Very rarely do you see them 'split' on candidates, especially presidents.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:44 am to volod
quote:Lol no shite
I think this board is disingenuous about the SS
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:45 am to volod
The answer is the lefts stalwart devotion to identity politics, the oversimplification of all political issues into good vs evil, and the media's complicitness therein.
ETA: Also, a certain demographic's complete and utter devotion to their "leaders" and celebrities
ETA: Also, a certain demographic's complete and utter devotion to their "leaders" and celebrities
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:45 am to volod
I don't know, but according to BamaAtl they can't even afford to get an ID. Not sure how they can afford fuel to get to the voting station?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:46 am to volod
They aren't. The real target is liberal whites who have guilt about how blacks were treated in the past.
The black vote is always locked up for the Dems, but they are pandered to in a highly visible way to influence guilt-ridden whites who don't want to appear to be racist.
The black vote is always locked up for the Dems, but they are pandered to in a highly visible way to influence guilt-ridden whites who don't want to appear to be racist.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:47 am to FooManChoo
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hey aren't. The real target is liberal whites who have guilt about how blacks were treated in the past.
Also this.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:49 am to volod
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This is the modern history; since Reagan, Republicans have been the party of the rich, while Democrats had launched the war on poverty and helped the poor.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:49 am to FooManChoo
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The black vote is always locked up for the Dems, but they are pandered to in a highly visible way to influence guilt-ridden whites who don't want to appear to be racist.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:52 am to volod
Democrats care about the black vote, not black people. Do you see any mainstream Democrats in Congress advocating for criminal justice reform or an end to the War on Drugs? Do you see any mainstream Democrats in Congress debating measures to potentially reduce the numbers of African American children born out of wedlock?
The Democratic message is one of identity politics, yet they completely miss on changing the institutional structures of American politics. They're more concerned with symbolic gestures, such as removing Confederate statutes and flags, than they are by tackling real issues that are difficult and messy.
The Democratic message is one of identity politics, yet they completely miss on changing the institutional structures of American politics. They're more concerned with symbolic gestures, such as removing Confederate statutes and flags, than they are by tackling real issues that are difficult and messy.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:53 am to SCLibertarian
Identity politics forged by the left to get votes and keep blacks and Latinos in poverty so they will continue to vote for them religiously. The voting demographic of blacks who are married with kids and make over $100K/year is close to 40% GOP! Whereas poor blacks vote 98% Dem.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:53 am to volod
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while Democrats had launched the war on poverty and helped the poor.
One of the biggest myths in political history. The dems have somehow continued to enslave the large majority of black people to their false narrative of helping them, when the opposite is true.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:55 am to Wally Sparks
What is laughable is white liberals drooling over demographic changes because the most irrelevant voting block in a minority majority country will be white liberals.
Then they will win everywhere as often as they win in the south now
Then they will win everywhere as often as they win in the south now
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:55 am to volod
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Why are Blacks considered a major voting demographics in modern elections?
Because they all vote the same and they are like 12% of the total population.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:55 am to Machine
I don't get this talking point. The GOP is the party of the rich, except for the super rich like Bill Gates or the Hollywood elites or the super rich in California and the Northeast.
The Dems are the party of the poor, except for the poor "rednecks" in the South and the flyover states who consistently vote for the GOP.
Generalizations are dumb (and yes, that is a generalization).
The Dems are the party of the poor, except for the poor "rednecks" in the South and the flyover states who consistently vote for the GOP.
Generalizations are dumb (and yes, that is a generalization).
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:58 am to volod
quote:this is so stupid
This is the modern history; since Reagan, Republicans have been the party of the rich, while Democrats had launched the war on poverty and helped the poor.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 11:01 am to olddawg26
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I'd say because they all vote one way or the other. Very rarely do you see them 'split' on candidates, especially presidents.
Would there be anything more fun than a Joe Biden vs Maxine Waters vs Kamala Harris presidential primary?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 11:04 am to SCLibertarian
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Democrats care about the black vote, not black people. Do you see any mainstream Democrats in Congress advocating for criminal justice reform or an end to the War on Drugs? Do you see any mainstream Democrats in Congress debating measures to potentially reduce the numbers of African American children born out of wedlock? The Democratic message is one of identity politics, yet they completely miss on changing the institutional structures of American politics. They're more concerned with symbolic gestures, such as removing Confederate statutes and flags, than they are by tackling real issues that are difficult and messy
I agree with this. My biggest concern is that the Democrats need to appeal to the white lower and middle class voters. They could easily do so by toning down on the race pandering. Really pandering in general needs to be avoided as it is not helping anyone, including poor whites. Their platform can be classically liberal by offering things such as Medicare for all and more affordable college plans.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 11:04 am to volod
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since Reagan, Republicans have been the party of the rich,
Uh, I got news for ya. Republicans were called the 'party of the rich' in the 1950s.
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