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White House supports renewal of spy law without reforms

Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:29 pm
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The Trump administration supports renewing without reforms a key surveillance law governing how the U.S. government collects electronic communications that is due to expire at the end of the year, a White House official said on Wednesday.

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The law, known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), has been criticized by privacy and civil liberties advocates as allowing broad, intrusive spying. It gained renewed attention following the 2013 disclosures by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.

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Though FISA is intended to govern spy programs intended for foreigners, an unknown amount of communications belonging to Americans are also collected due to a range of technical and practical reasons.

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Another questionable decision in a series of questionable decisions by this administration
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:34 pm to
I'm not in love with it, but I'm afraid it's a necessity in this age.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:37 pm to
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I'm afraid it's a necessity in this age

But with no revision at all? Appears like pure laziness
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm afraid it's a necessity in this age.


you like the Patriot Act too, do you?

no right to an attorney
no right to be even charged with a crime
no right to a trial
no right to cross examine witnesses

and now, no right to privacy, because heck, its just so hard to keep from capturing all the data in the universe so your stuff is in there too.

USA now employs 200,000 intelligence analysts.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:39 pm to
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I'm not in love with it, but I'm afraid it's a necessity in this age.

That's kinda fricked up
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:39 pm to
Hey, it was the Democrats that created the FISA
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Hey, it was the Democrats that created the FISA


What was in place before then?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to
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What was in place before then?



The agencies were on their own.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Hey, it was the Democrats that created the FISA

And repubs had an opportunity to remove it or revise it but chose not to. This isn't a right vs left thing. It's about the government overextending its reach into our lives
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11186 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 11:14 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146831 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:45 pm to
I don't like it at all. But why is it every POTUS is all in for this upon arrival? There must be a reason...
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:46 pm to
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And repubs had an opportunity to remove it or revise it but chose not to. This isn't a right vs left thing. It's about the government overextending its reach into our lives


Exactly. I'm tired of people's view of liberty changing depending on the political party in power.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I don't like it all all. But why is it every POTUS is all in for this upon arrival? There must be a reason...


Why do you think McCain is all freaked out. He's been FISA'd
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80257 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:47 pm to
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But why is it every POTUS is all in for this upon arrival? There must be a reason...


Power. Bureaucratic inertia. Entrenched interests. Actionable intelligence. Apathy from the general public.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35495 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I'm afraid it's a necessity in this age

Seriously, why? What are you so afraid of that you feel it's necessary to expand federal power?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:48 pm to
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And repubs had an opportunity to remove it


it's been around since 1978, why haven't the Dem's remove it?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to
You appear like pure vermin

Other actual relevant shite to do
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:52 pm to
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it's been around since 1978, why haven't the Dem's remove it?

jesus fricking christ. Both parties are equally responsible. Are you incapable of thinking outside your identity politics for 5 seconds?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
I generally support 702 authority.

What specific reforms are being discussed?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:59 pm to
How do you think they found the three Paki IT guys? FISA. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire Senate Intelligence Committee had been FISA'd.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:00 pm
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