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re: Which kind of president would you rather?

Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:35 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:35 am to
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Specifically, what reversal of Obama policy will benefit America?
And the big potential "reversal" (healthcare), has been a mess from the start. And of course, while he's tweeting and insulting people who shouldn't be worth a President's time, he only emboldens the opposition and diverts attention away from meaningful policies.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:36 am to
To be fair, the ACA was a mess from the start.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:38 am to
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I'd say the 2 for 1 regulation policy was a pretty good idea.
And everybody lauded his lobbyist EO, but of course now they are requesting a ton of ethics waivers to skirt around it. So what is the value of something is you just find ways around it?

Just like Obama, it seems a lot of symbolic fluff, with some headlines and photo ops.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:39 am to
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I'd say the 2 for 1 regulation policy was a pretty good idea.


I agree.

The travel ban from the five failed states was also good policy although its held up in the courts.

So two good EOs so far in six months. And his lack of progress isn't all on him because Congress is a dumpster fire but it again shows the dangers of electing a populist that is light on policy.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:40 am to
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That is a bold face lie and you know it. I know you can't help it, but quit being a bitch.


Ok. What has he done? Got Gorushc confirmed to replace Scalia and withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord, where the benefits of doing this are dubious at best. This administration's ineptness has basically put advancing the Republican agenda to a halt.

Like I said, he hasn't done jack shite. Well, he continues to twitter bash the mayor of the most important city of our most important ally. Plus, he's managed to play golf 23 times since taking office. I'll give you that too.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:45 am to
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Well, he continues to twitter bash the mayor of the most important city of our most important ally.


That doesn't bother me. Khan is in opposition to Western Civilization
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:48 am to
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"One that says the rights things, but does nothing"
You just described George W's domestic policy


Did I miss something? Ok. Who is defending Bush in this thread? Now, answer his question.
Posted by HeavyD
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
1036 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:50 am to
I want a leader as a president. I don't have to like him/her. There are tough decisions that need to be made and hope this person can make them with the interest of the country and not the political party (both sides).

I believe Trump has the best interest of the country on foreign matters. I hope he can deliver on immigration and tax reform.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35657 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:51 am to
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Just like Obama, it seems a lot of symbolic fluff, with some headlines and photo ops.
Just as the establishment intended when they put him in the White House.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:51 am to
I feel like the "what has he done" argument needs to be taken seriously at the end of a term, not 6 months into it. Some of your better presidents didn't really make solid policy changes with results until into a 2nd term.

The SCOTUS appt, although not a policy, was extremely important because it could effect policies down the road, even post Trump.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73475 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:52 am to
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Just as the establishment intended when they put him in the White House.
Every freakin day with your retarded mantra.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:53 am to
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I feel like the "what has he done" argument needs to be taken seriously at the end of a term, not 6 months into it. Some of your better presidents didn't really make solid policy changes with results until into a 2nd term.


I absolutely agree but the OP clearly stated that Trump is not graceful but "handles business" - which is clearly not the case so far.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:54 am to
Because eventually 2 for 1 catches up to you. At the very least it limits govt growth. It won't have an immediate impact. Give it a year or two. You know how politics works.

Anybody expecting immediate changes with positive results is not living in the real world that's not how our system is set up
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:55 am to
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How exactly has Trump handled business? He hasn't done jack shite.


Out of Paris Agreement
SCOTUS
Out of TPP


Just three things that I like, so i wouldn't say he has done nothing. Now, if we are going to only count what a President does that we agree with? Obama did nothing for 8 years. See how this can be played?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:56 am to
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I absolutely agree but the OP clearly stated that Trump is not graceful but "handles business" - which is clearly not the case so far.


He's done ok. A lack of legislation is a good thing, in my book.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58920 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:23 am to
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A lack of legislation is a good thing, in my book.


Depends on the legislation. We desperately need to get rid of/reform the ACA and tax reform. Both require legislative action.

Leaving the Paris Accord was very poor policy
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:24 am to
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C) I'd rather a President who handles his business but also has political common sense and knows when to stfu.

Why do you hate the 1st Amendment?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:26 am to
i want one with at least a semblance of a connection with reality
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35657 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:26 am to
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Obama's greatest accomplishment as President
An establishment President is an establishment President, regardless of which letter (R or D) is in front of his name.
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