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Which ISP will be the one to guarantee it will never sell

Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:04 pm
...your history to anyone ever?

I see a stock jump waiting to happen.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:08 pm to
Damn. That's actually really smart. Unless our personal data is crazy valuable or there is a cartel some company should do this
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4136 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:00 pm to
Or better yet, give the option to opt out. But if you opt in, you get a discount on your service.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10472 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Or better yet, give the option to opt out. But if you opt in, you get a discount on your service.


They've already experimented with this - LINK

Now that their lobbying efforts have been successful, though, they get to charge you whatever they want while giving you no option to opt out of their data collection.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:04 pm to
It wont matter, the small ISPs will try to do this. But the FCC is rolling back all regulations that Wheeler and Obama put forward to keep Comcast/ATT/Verizon from monopolizing the industry. Small ISPs already get bullied out of business, so when these regulations are gone for good, we will have 3 choices at best for internet. This is why Obama wanted to make the internet a utility but congress is in the pocket of big internet so it would never happen right now.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:07 pm to
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Which ISP will be the one to guarantee it will never sell


Probably local government owned ISPs. Like the one in Lafayette.

Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Damn. That's actually really smart. Unless our personal data is crazy valuable or there is a cartel some company should do this



I can't decide to use the ISP in Connecticut. That's the flaw in this idea.

I mean maybe for satellite companies that are maxed out on their speeds and they need something else to compete on. But 10mbps is becoming more and more restrictive. When it comes to true broadband, most people have one choice at most.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:15 pm to
Get a VPN.. private internet access is like $30 a year

LINK
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68332 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:15 pm to
How long was the Obama law, that got reversed, in place? Since 2015? What happened before then?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:44 pm to

LINK /

Comcast has begun serving Comcast ads to devices connected to one of its 3.5 million publicly accessible Wi-Fi hotspots across the US. Comcast's decision to inject data into websites raises security concerns and arguably cuts to the core of the ongoing net neutrality debate.

A Comcast spokesman told Ars the program began months ago.One facet of it is designed to alert consumers that they are connected to Comcast's Xfinity service. Other ads remind Web surfers to download Xfinity apps, Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas told Ars in telephone interviews.

The advertisements may appear about every seven minutes or so, he said, and they last for just seconds before trailing away. Douglas said the advertising campaign only applies to Xfinity's publicly available Wi-Fi hot spots that dot the landscape. Comcast customers connected to their own Xfinity Wi-Fi routers when they're at home are not affected, he said.

"We think it's a courtesy, and it helps address some concerns that people might not be absolutely sure they're on a hotspot from Comcast," Douglas said.


(IMAGE
Enlarge / A snippet from a JavaScript file Comcast injected into an Internet surfer's visit to the site Mediagazer.)

Ryan Singel
The Comcast advertising campaign came to Ars' attention after Ryan Singel, the co-founder of startup Contextly, was reading Mediagazer at a café in the North Beach neighborhood of San Francisco on Labor Day.

A small red advertisement saying "XFINITY WiFi Peppy" scooted across the bottom of the Mediagazer page and disappeared into the ether. It happened a few times, he said. Singel took screen shots of the advertisement loading and as it appeared on his screen. He captured some code, too.

"When a user requests to view a page, Comcast injects its JavaScript into the packets being returned by the real server," Singel said during an instant-message chat.

Singel's suspicions were correct that Mediagazer didn't place the ad there, and Mediagazer is none too happy about it. "Indeed, they were not ours," Gabe Rivera, who runs Mediagazer and Techmeme, said in an e-mail. In another e-mail, he said, "someone else is inserting them in a sneaky way."
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:49 pm to
There wasn't a precedent before Wheeler came into the FCC. Wheeler is the only reason that this wasn't passed before now. It probably would've passed when Obama was still in office. Wheeler was the key for Net Neutrality. Now the biggest opponent to NN is in Wheeler's place. Hes also in the pocket of Comcast. So they have all of our data, and now they're going to be able to make huge profit off of it. They were doing it before but now its huge. and legal...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

t wont matter, the small ISPs will try to do this. But the FCC is rolling back all regulations that Wheeler and Obama put forward to keep Comcast/ATT/Verizon from monopolizing the industry. Small ISPs already get bullied out of business, so when these regulations are gone for good, we will have 3 choices at best for internet. This is why Obama wanted to make the internet a utility but congress is in the pocket of big internet so it would never happen right now.




This is nice and all, but irrelevant to privacy data issues.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:53 pm to
No its not. Small ISPs are the only hope we have now of keeping our data private. But when FCC makes it legal for ATT to sue the shite out of them until they don't have money, we wont have those ISPs.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:54 pm to
Which ISP? Don't know, let me check the only fricking two that service my home #competition
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:02 pm to
Exactly, now the FCC is rolling back more regulations every day. Its going to get to the point wherever you live, there will be at most 3 choices. But no one here seemed to take that into account when they voted. And Im not talking about Trump.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Exactly, now the FCC is rolling back more regulations every day.


The FCC hasn't rolled back any regulations.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:11 pm to
This is literally a thread talking about a regulation that got rolled back in favor of big Internet.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89566 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

This is literally a thread talking about a regulation that got rolled back in favor of big Internet.


Maybe that's that this is, but I don't think so. I think this is a thread about legislation - which isn't exactly the same as regulation. I've been wrong before.

Just FTR, I'm pro privacy.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15732 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:40 pm to
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Which ISP will be the one to guarantee it will never sell...your history to anyone ever?


I haven't read the EULA for any of the browsers that I use, but I'd be surprised if Google isn't tracking Chrome users or some of the other large browser providers.

Paying cash for a laptop at a flea market with no security cameras and using TAILS on public wifi is about as anonymous as anyone can expect to get nowadays. True internet anonymity is beyond the scope of the average joe.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Its going to get to the point wherever you live, there will be at most 3 choices.


Don't all ISPs pretty much lease their access from AT&T anyway?
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