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Where's the ACLU???
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:37 pm
Defend my liberties or do I not fit in your demographic?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:38 pm to BigPerm30
How people consider them a legit organization is beyond me
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:45 pm to upgrayedd
Their silence on matters like this shows why they are not legit.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:47 pm to BigPerm30
OK, what are you screaming about on the internet?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:48 pm to BigPerm30
Unless you have both titties and balls or are from a ME country they don't give not one frick about you or your civil liberties.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:56 pm to BigPerm30
LINK
I know conservatives like to kick the ACLU around a lot. However, they are the most consistent defenders of civil liberties in this country.
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Despite Congress’s laudable aims in enacting FISA originally, the ACLU has long argued that surveillance under FISA raises serious constitutional concerns, because FISA orders are not nearly as protective as wiretapping warrants in criminal cases. With a traditional wiretap, the government must establish probable cause that its surveillance will lead to evidence of a crime, and strict minimization rules are applied to protect the privacy of non-targets whose information could get swept up by the wiretap. With FISA surveillance, the government need only establish that there’s probable cause to believe that its target is an agent of a foreign power and is using a particular phone line, email account, or other communications “facility.” In addition, the purpose of FISA surveillance — to obtain wide-ranging “foreign intelligence information” — is much broader than a typical wiretap, and can extend, for example, to information related to the foreign affairs of the United States. Those are extremely broad parameters. Finally, the minimization rules under FISA are far less protective of Americans’ privacy interests.
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Section 702 is set to expire at the end of the year, unless Congress renews it. Instead, Congress must reform this law, which harms the privacy rights both of people abroad and virtually all Americans.
I know conservatives like to kick the ACLU around a lot. However, they are the most consistent defenders of civil liberties in this country.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:57 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I know conservatives like to kick the ACLU around a lot. However, they are the most consistent defenders of civil liberties in this country.
No, actually that would be the NRA
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:59 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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No, actually that would be the NRA
Well, that's your opinion.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:09 pm to BigPerm30
The ACLU has been one of the biggest opponents of the Patriot Act and associated things since day one, so I do not know where you are getting this.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:09 pm to Aubie Spr96
And you also provided yours.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:12 pm to roadGator
I would argue that the ACLU defends a wider scope than the NRA does. However, both provide a necessary defense against the tyranny of big gov't. I'm glad to have them both.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:21 pm to BigPerm30
I see their ads for their resist workshops daily
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:24 pm to BigPerm30
The ACLU picks and chooses its battles.
This nor you qualify.
This nor you qualify.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:25 pm to Aubie Spr96
I would argue that they are mainly a tool of the left that occasionally inadvertently benefits us all.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:35 pm to roadGator
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I would argue that they are mainly a tool of the left that occasionally inadvertently benefits us all.
The left says the same things when they oppose their agenda. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:18 pm to Aubie Spr96
When the #resist Democrats, I'll agree with you.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:49 pm to Aubie Spr96
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No, actually that would be the NRA
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Well, that's your opinion.
and mine as well. the only thing maintaining the Bill of Rights are guns in the hands of the populace.
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