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Where's the ACLU???

Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25944 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:37 pm
Defend my liberties or do I not fit in your demographic?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:38 pm to
How people consider them a legit organization is beyond me
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41684 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:45 pm to
Their silence on matters like this shows why they are not legit.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:47 pm to
OK, what are you screaming about on the internet?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:48 pm to
Unless you have both titties and balls or are from a ME country they don't give not one frick about you or your civil liberties.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41144 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:56 pm to
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Despite Congress’s laudable aims in enacting FISA originally, the ACLU has long argued that surveillance under FISA raises serious constitutional concerns, because FISA orders are not nearly as protective as wiretapping warrants in criminal cases. With a traditional wiretap, the government must establish probable cause that its surveillance will lead to evidence of a crime, and strict minimization rules are applied to protect the privacy of non-targets whose information could get swept up by the wiretap. With FISA surveillance, the government need only establish that there’s probable cause to believe that its target is an agent of a foreign power and is using a particular phone line, email account, or other communications “facility.” In addition, the purpose of FISA surveillance — to obtain wide-ranging “foreign intelligence information” — is much broader than a typical wiretap, and can extend, for example, to information related to the foreign affairs of the United States. Those are extremely broad parameters. Finally, the minimization rules under FISA are far less protective of Americans’ privacy interests.


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Section 702 is set to expire at the end of the year, unless Congress renews it. Instead, Congress must reform this law, which harms the privacy rights both of people abroad and virtually all Americans.


I know conservatives like to kick the ACLU around a lot. However, they are the most consistent defenders of civil liberties in this country.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:57 pm to
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I know conservatives like to kick the ACLU around a lot. However, they are the most consistent defenders of civil liberties in this country.




No, actually that would be the NRA
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41144 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:59 pm to
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No, actually that would be the NRA


Well, that's your opinion.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:09 pm to
The ACLU has been one of the biggest opponents of the Patriot Act and associated things since day one, so I do not know where you are getting this.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140541 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:09 pm to
And you also provided yours.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41144 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:12 pm to
I would argue that the ACLU defends a wider scope than the NRA does. However, both provide a necessary defense against the tyranny of big gov't. I'm glad to have them both.
Posted by Tiger at Law
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
2990 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:20 pm to
Here they are:

Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:21 pm to
I see their ads for their resist workshops daily
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45285 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:24 pm to
The ACLU picks and chooses its battles.

This nor you qualify.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140541 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:25 pm to
I would argue that they are mainly a tool of the left that occasionally inadvertently benefits us all.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41144 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:35 pm to
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I would argue that they are mainly a tool of the left that occasionally inadvertently benefits us all.



The left says the same things when they oppose their agenda. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140541 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:18 pm to
When the #resist Democrats, I'll agree with you.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19068 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:49 pm to
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No, actually that would be the NRA


quote:

Well, that's your opinion.


and mine as well. the only thing maintaining the Bill of Rights are guns in the hands of the populace.
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