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When did we start accepting our current police state?

Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:58 am
A report just came out from the Advocate that listed a bunch of towns in Louisiana that derive over 90% from their revenue from speeding tickets. And this isn't limited to them either - agencies like BRPD and Lafayette PD are notorious for inspection sticker checkpoints, cops parking outside of busy areas with radar, etc.

State troopers line our highways pulling people over, when if you cross the state border heading to Texas you rarely see highway cops.

People on the OT defending the abomination known as civil asset forfeiture, police brutality videos, etc.

The same folks who are in Q threads talking about the deep state are weirdly always behind the arm of the state that can actually infringe on their rights on a day to day basis. I just don't get it.
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:01 am to
I think most people accept it because they think this makes them safer. Then one day the police bend them over and frick the shite out of them and they wake up but by then it's too late.

Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:03 am to
I obey the law so I really don't notice any of this and it doesn't affect my day to day life.

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:03 am to
I think most conservatives have a rosier image of the modern day police force than reality

Most PDs are made of bald, tattooed meatheads who can barely type let alone correctly enforce the law.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:03 am to
I think it began in the 80's when the concept of "public safety" really took off with the "child abduction/devil worshiping" hysteria that was completely overblown. That coupled with the increased war on drugs that also started in the 80's set the wheels in motion.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:04 am to
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I obey the law so I really don't notice any of this and it doesn't affect my day to day life.


Pretty short sighted view
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:04 am to
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When did we start accepting our current police state?

The War of Northern Aggression was the start. 9/11 and the Patriot Act really ramped it up though.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:05 am to
There are definitely generational gaps when you talk about how one sees the police

I'd wager the majority of the pro-blue line types are north of 45
Posted by mb_
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:05 am to
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People on the OT defending the abomination known as civil asset forfeiture, police brutality videos, etc.

The same folks who are in Q threads talking about the deep state are weirdly always behind the arm of the state that can actually infringe on their rights on a day to day basis. I just don't get it.


QFT, while people are crying about rights potentially being infringed we have seen the erosion of the 4th. The greatest damage was done under Reagan and Bill Clinton imo, and then the Patriot Act and W pretty much put the nail in the coffin so to speak. I applaud Trump for addressing criminal justice reform but there is plenty else to be addressed in that regard
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:06 am to
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I think most conservatives have a rosier image of the modern day police force than reality

Most PDs are made of bald, tattooed meatheads who can barely type let alone correctly enforce the law.

I know a guy who's a space cadet that just became a cop in AZ. Kinda scary, actually.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:06 am to
Muh originalist Scalia was a huge blue line guy

Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:07 am to
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I obey the law so I really don't notice any of this and it doesn't affect my day to day life.


I obey the law also, never been arrested but if people can't see that we've allowed "policing" to go overboard then you have to be blind.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:07 am to
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Pretty short sighted view


Sorry, Should I have more empathy for the ones who are to ignorant to follow the laws?

I'll try harder.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
We have one cop from my high school class. He was bullied, is probably 50-70 pounds overweight, and had violent tendencies throughout school. Pretty much textbook Louisiana cop.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
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There are definitely generational gaps when you talk about how one sees the police

I'd wager the majority of the pro-blue line types are north of 45

I'm not anti-police and I usually give them the benefit of the doubt most of the time, but the hero-worship, just like with the military, has gone way too far.

There are two types of cops. Those that are called to do it and those that can't do anything else.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
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to ignorant


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Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
One thing I never understood was seatbelt laws. Like I know I should wear one. But I have received two tickets when I was wearing a seatbelt and there is frick all you can do about it. If the cop just says you weren't wearing one, you weren't wearing one.

Anyways, cops suck.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Sorry, Should I have more empathy for the ones who are to ignorant to follow the laws?

I'll try harder.


Sure. Empathy and the ability to see the big picture are good things to have.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:11 am to
I give a lot of leeway to cops in bad situations - ie. those who are working in dangerous inner city situations.

Not so much the average roadside cop shooting radar, hunting for inspection stickers, or running checkpoints to fill the state's coffers.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:12 am to
Had a cop in college basically baiting me to pass him on the highway(and go right over the changing limit) and when I wouldn't, he flashes the lights and gets me for a BS seat belt ticket.
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