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When did STEM become STEAM?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:58 am
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:58 am
So I was listening to a podcast that said to be on the lookout for Kamala Harris to be the Dem nom for 2020, and since I don't know much about her I decided to go read her platforms.
Without getting into the normal partisan spiral, I saw one slightly different gripe that really made my head hurt.
Under her education stance:
What the fricking frick? Isn't the pursuit of all the BS art degrees part of the reason people are drowning in student load debt 10 years post graduate?
She continues to say:
You can't lump music in with STEM topics....
:Headexplode:
Without getting into the normal partisan spiral, I saw one slightly different gripe that really made my head hurt.
Under her education stance:
quote:
Steam for 21st Century Jobs: Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts and Math (STEAM) education is the key to America's future success.
What the fricking frick? Isn't the pursuit of all the BS art degrees part of the reason people are drowning in student load debt 10 years post graduate?
She continues to say:
quote:
But we are woefully underfunding art, music and creative programs to teach children to think critically and innovate.
You can't lump music in with STEM topics....
:Headexplode:
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:01 am to Displaced
Because art majors want to feel like they're as important as STEM.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:02 am to Displaced
Yes, she's a prog POS
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:02 am to Displaced
Shocker, Dem wants to subsidize students that will most likely be underemployed at best. I wonder which way the'll vote. 
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:02 am to Displaced
I just learned this a few weeks ago myself.
I was in a meeting where they mentioned this change and if you're in a Catholic school it's now STREAM- adding religion In as well.
I was in a meeting where they mentioned this change and if you're in a Catholic school it's now STREAM- adding religion In as well.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:03 am to Displaced
Someone has got to have the skills to paint that multicultural nose art on the new space shuttle.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:07 am to Displaced
I don't see the problem. Design is needed for things to be functional. Art doesn't just refer to some guy painting in a studio. Entertainment is a multibillion dollar industry. CGI needs artists. Computer programs need UI artists. Web sites need design. Businesses need logos and branding.
Most things that are made need some level of design aesthetic to help them sell better than competing products.
Most things that are made need some level of design aesthetic to help them sell better than competing products.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:11 am to dbeck
Good point.
I know this is more specific to lines of getting into certain fields but even art at it's base isn't a bad thing. Being a kid/teenager isn't always easy so simply expressing themselves thru art isn't bad either imo.
I know this is more specific to lines of getting into certain fields but even art at it's base isn't a bad thing. Being a kid/teenager isn't always easy so simply expressing themselves thru art isn't bad either imo.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:12 am to Displaced
I think we ARE neglecting the arts with young students (elementary and middle). However, we should not subsidize college students who are choosing arts as a major except for maybe education.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:13 am to Displaced
quote:
BS art degrees part
Is this where they do fractal art?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:13 am to piggilicious
quote:
Good point
No it isn't.
There are countless skills required to market a product. The initiative is focused on growing technical skills in the country. You know those technical skill gaps that keep us companies from hiring Americans.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:14 am to Displaced
If you change the A from Arts to something like Architecture, Agriculture, or Aeronautics, it would make more sense.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:16 am to Displaced
quote:
Steam for 21st Century Jobs: Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts and Math (STEAM) education is the key to America's future success.
That's just sad really. Bless their little hearts.
Liberals STILL don't seem to know that changing the word for a thing doesn't change what that thing is.
"Don't call them retarded because that's insulting".
Yeah. Well now, "special" is insulting.
Throwing the A in there to make people feel better doesn't change their circumstance one iota
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:20 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:
There are countless skills required to market a product. The initiative is focused on growing technical skills in the country. You know those technical skill gaps that keep us companies from hiring Americans.
His entire comment was referring to various art/tech mixes.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:29 am to ShortyRob
quote:
"Don't call them retarded because that's insulting".
Retarded was originally the PC term for it because moron and idiot actually had IQ ranges that qualified a person to those ignominious titles. And according to the Facebook video I saw a couple states still have laws that bar idiots from voting (though one could argue they are clearly not enforced)
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:35 am to piggilicious
quote:
His entire comment was referring to various art/tech mixes.
Basic web coding (HTML and Javascript) is actually part of the graphic design courses in a lot of places.
There are a lot of technical aspects in the field of the arts from color theory and color psychology to sound recording and mixing.
Humans are very visually oriented and rarely choose a product based solely on specs. Every product you've ever purchased was drawn by a concept artist when it was being designed. Look around you and realize that nearly every object you see was designed with some level of aesthetics in mind. Shape, color, texture, etc.
Logos, web sites, user interface, every font, every color was chosen.
Can anyone do it? Yeah. Can anyone do it well? Not really.
Still think the arts aren't important?
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:55 am to Displaced
Well about the only thing they are leaving out is history. And we know they don't want people to learn the real history of the Democratic Party, communism, and fascism. They want to rewrite history to claim the Republicans did all that.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:01 am to Displaced
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Kamala
Every time I see her name, I can't help but think of this guy, the real Kamala.
:inb4thatsracist:
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:05 am to Displaced
They have a STEAM room at my kid's elementary school in Hoover. Right across from the...Art room. Makes no sense.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:08 am to dbeck
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I don't see the problem.
The problem is the STEM acronym was created to add focus to the hard sciences. Adding the one thing that is not like the others renders the differentiation useless.
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