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What's the endgame?

Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19914 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:08 pm
All kidding aside, I just can't believe the current political climate will just be the new normal. It will either return to something like before the rise of Trump, or will escalate to a more conclusive conflict (possibly violent). I also think Europe will face the same thing. Not all of them are on board with becoming the Eurostan Union.

Personally, I think we may have already crossed the Rubicon, but I'm still in denial about the "Civil War" scenario.

Just seems like the left is spinning more and more out of control. (And, yes, I do blame the left more than the right.)
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23291 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:11 pm to
People have already lost trust in the mainstream media and politicians.

If they were smart they would wait for Trump to fail before getting all hysterical and saying "told you so". But them clinging to any little thing and trying to weaponize it against Trump shows me that they have lost all hope of going back to where we were before this. They are super super desperate.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:19 pm to
We're in a cold civil war now. It's already happening If it goes hot, may God have mercy on us all.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:24 pm to
The establishment in the DNC is already starting to try and backtrack on their calls for impeachment. They are starting to realize that they may have over-rustled their base to the point that they might start demanding results like GOP voters have done in primary-ing many members of the establishment GOP who refused to take a hard enough stance against Obamacare among other policies.

We appear to have crossed the Rubicon when it comes to the political-cultural divide. Social media and anonymity combined with an educational and media agenda have permitted a philosophy to fester which de-legitimizes debate and disagreement, causing others to view those who disagree as evil and wicked rather than simply wrong or ill-informed. Without that intellectual respect, there can be no productive discourse because all debates start with the presumption that all disagreement with the given agenda is rooted in evil intentions or some sort of contrived "original sin" of evil in the form of privilege.

I typically would say that these things go in cycles. The pendulum swings left and right as each side disappoints its base and loses legitimacy in their eyes. However, each over-reaction seems to be breeding more intense over-reactions, which are beginning to turn violent. I really hope that I am reading more into this than I should be, but I'm really not sure how to come back from this level of "rustled".

20 years ago, they were just loons, typically confined to college campuses. 5 years ago, they really only existed on the internet on Tumblr and Twitter. People weren't even sure if they were trolls or just wackos. Today, it's your friends who are the wackos. It's people you know, people you grew up with, people alongside whom you were raised who are denouncing each other as privileged, racists, bigots, and monsters. It is as if we fell asleep last night a Jew on the Upper West Side and awoke in 1930's Germany. It seemed harmless when the threat was fringe, just a bunch of a-holes in one beer hall in Munich. Now, they march among us, they are our friends and family members, and they hate us, see us as almost less than human. It seems almost impossible that these people who have known us for so long could reject every ounce of shared experience in order to de-humanize us only due to our political differences, to accuse us of being monsters they know we cannot possibly be, yet they do. Yet we are in their eyes, and they have become the same in our own eyes. They disagree and so I hate them, because their disagreement is clearly rooted in hate and contempt, and they think the same of me.

I really do not see how we walk this back as a society.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:27 pm to
The Left's end game is single party rule and globalization.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52918 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:29 pm to
They can call me privileged all they want but if some lefty throws a dildo or tries to hit me with a bike lock they're gonna get to check these knuckles up close

I, and most real Americans, are eagerly awaiting the lefties to become violent
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