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re: What should be Americans' response to the real terrorists?

Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:01 pm to
Not specific enough. How many is "enough Americans"? What would you and they do when 'roused'?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:02 pm to
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To rouse the necessary righteous indignation among a sufficient number of Americans to get them to act as individuals or in concert.

In other words, propaganda, violence, scapegoating, and control. The exact same thing "they" want. You're one of them.
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:04 pm to
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To rouse the necessary righteous indignation among a sufficient number of Americans to get them to act as individuals or in concert.


Find that castle and storm it. Solid military tactics. Let's put it in our operations order and brief the freedom fighters.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64324 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:06 pm to
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What if America discovered that the richest and most powerful people on earth are responsible for creating/controlling global terrorism, including 9/11, as well as financial terrorism.




Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:07 pm to
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In other words, propaganda, violence, scapegoating, and control. The exact same thing "they" want. You're one of them.


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson

Guess that covers your "violence" part.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:08 pm to
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To rouse the necessary righteous indignation among a sufficient number of Americans to get them to act as individuals or in concert.




In other words, propaganda, violence, scapegoating, and control. The exact same thing "they" want. You're one of them.
Police who arrest criminals are criminals themselves? Those who make laws against criminal activity are criminals themselves?

That makes no sense.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:09 pm to
So you are basically conceding that the real terrorists have won. They have achieved their objectives, and their targets have not responded effectively.

I don't know how to tell you this without sounding unkind. You are delusional. There is no pre-planned global conspiracy that provides a unified explanation for unconnected events. Events occur because people acting independently generally respond to other events in rational manners made with some awareness of other actors and their motivations.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:10 pm to
There are real-world examples of feigned or embellished attacks for purposes of propaganda, scapegoating, violence, and control.

The Boston Massacre

Hitler burning the Reichstagg

These were small, isolated, insular, unilateral events. Those who perpetrated them did it to seize power, and then wielded it directly and overtly. We have real evidence.

There are not parallels to 9/11. It falls apart quickly once you realize the scope and power and lack of evidence and totally unnecessary invisibility of the presumed perpetrators.
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:16 pm to
You think we respond to catastrophes rationally? Is it rational that I am considered a threat because someone bombed some place? Is it rational to give up our liberties because people in other parts of the world hate us? News flash! I've been on six continents and there are a lot of people who hate us. And so far our response is to punish the American people.

We are destroying our identity as a nation. These violations of our rights are connected.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:18 pm to
Yes, 9/11 was carried out so that some black ghetto queen TSA agent with a bad attitude can grope you. It all makes sense.
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Hitler burning the Reichstagg


You do realize this example works against your point right?
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Yes, 9/11 was carried out so that some black ghetto queen TSA agent with a bad attitude can grope you. It all makes sense.


Racist
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:20 pm to
Not if you actually study it and attempt to draw comparisons.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:21 pm to
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So you are basically conceding that the real terrorists have won.
They are winning, yes.

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They have achieved their objectives, and their targets have not responded effectively.
So far, yes.

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There is no pre-planned global conspiracy that provides a unified explanation for unconnected events.
There are very powerful people with business plans to remain so. Events then follow.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:25 pm to
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That makes no sense.
When did making sense become important for you?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:31 pm to
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There are not parallels to 9/11.
The parallels are endless.

WhoDat has given you a few.

I would add that trillions in natural resources are up for grabs in Afghanistan. Countries in the Middle East (Iraq, Iran, Syria to name a few) threatened the Petro Dollar and refused to conform to the international banking cabal pre-9/11.
Those are all being "corrected" post 9/11.

I don't believe all that is simply coincidence.
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:40 pm to
There are a lot of questions left unanswered.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108256 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:50 pm to
Carpet bombing
Posted by WhoDatGreenBeret
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
546 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:53 pm to
We have gotten that far. It's the where and who we need answered.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:57 pm to
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There are a lot of questions left unanswered.

Such as?
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