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What is the likely outcome of Spy/FISA Gate?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:32 am
How will the outcome be presented by the DOJ on a scale of 1 to 10, with:
1 being no illegal spying. All surveillance was done by the book.
4 - rules were stretched by mid-level bureaucrats who may have shown bias. People are fired and internal overnight is tightened.
7 - laws were blatantly disregarded by senior level government officials and an organized plot is revealed. Charges are brought up and legislation is passed to put more teeth in current laws regarding abuse of government power.
10 - President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other elected officials are found to have orchestrated a spying campaign on Donald Trump in order to ensure that Hillary Clinton is elected.
What do you think will be the end result and will the truth be told?
I think it will be presented to the public as about a 5 or 6, but backroom negotiations will save elected officials from being implicated.
1 being no illegal spying. All surveillance was done by the book.
4 - rules were stretched by mid-level bureaucrats who may have shown bias. People are fired and internal overnight is tightened.
7 - laws were blatantly disregarded by senior level government officials and an organized plot is revealed. Charges are brought up and legislation is passed to put more teeth in current laws regarding abuse of government power.
10 - President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other elected officials are found to have orchestrated a spying campaign on Donald Trump in order to ensure that Hillary Clinton is elected.
What do you think will be the end result and will the truth be told?
I think it will be presented to the public as about a 5 or 6, but backroom negotiations will save elected officials from being implicated.
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:34 am to Jax-Tiger
Nada
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:34 am to Jax-Tiger
FISA brings the house down!
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:35 am to Jax-Tiger
Nothing
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:39 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:
What is the likely outcome of Spy/FISA Gate?
Nothing will come of this. Obama and his minions will walk away free....as will the Clinton mafia.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:39 am to Jax-Tiger
I would say a 2.
Q drones and Trust the Plan altar kneelers will say 10, but its going to be closer to a 2. There will be wrongdoing uncovered, but like with the IG report last year, the only "punishment" will be some vague mention of agencies having to undergo bias training.
It should be a 10, but Washington is too corrupt. Too many were involved in this, if the perps were actually punished the entire city would burn to the ground. They care more about protecting their institutions.
Q drones and Trust the Plan altar kneelers will say 10, but its going to be closer to a 2. There will be wrongdoing uncovered, but like with the IG report last year, the only "punishment" will be some vague mention of agencies having to undergo bias training.
It should be a 10, but Washington is too corrupt. Too many were involved in this, if the perps were actually punished the entire city would burn to the ground. They care more about protecting their institutions.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:41 am to Jax-Tiger
Nothing.
Deep state is too entrenched and powerful. Full pressure will be exerted upon enough individuals to “protect the country.”
Deep state is too entrenched and powerful. Full pressure will be exerted upon enough individuals to “protect the country.”
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:44 am to tigerskin
The minimum I see happening is that people are publicly rebuked for showing bias and using the Steele dossier without properly vetting it.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:47 am to Jax-Tiger
How did it really happen? An 11.
How will be presented? Around a 3 or 4. There might be a sacrificial lamb or 2, but nothing worse. Those sacrificial lambs will be well protected by the Deep State.
How will be presented? Around a 3 or 4. There might be a sacrificial lamb or 2, but nothing worse. Those sacrificial lambs will be well protected by the Deep State.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:50 am to Jax-Tiger
1.5
Some minor regulations were broken and the perps promoted so it never happens again.
Some minor regulations were broken and the perps promoted so it never happens again.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:50 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:
I think it will be presented to the public as about a 5 or 6, but backroom negotiations will save elected officials from being implicated.
This. Unfortunately expect the next time to be far far worse....and that time no one will be around to uncover or stop it.
Unless it hits your level 7 and above, then again Im an eternal optimist.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:53 am to Jax-Tiger
Probably 3 or 4. Some low level nobody at DOJ or the FBI might get fired.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:57 am to Jax-Tiger
Nothing is going to happen to anyone. The report will appear damning to us, but we will be told the agencies has been advised to better govern themselves internally, and that's it.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:26 am to Jax-Tiger
Just a lot of money pissed away. I will be absolutely stunned if anybody on the first team ever goes to jail. Washington is swamp, and swamp protects swamp.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:32 am to OchoDedos
I am surprised the trust the plan crowd hasnt come into this thread yet
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:45 pm to Jax-Tiger
-1 This was all a smokescreen (not the crimes but the threats of punishment/firings) to stir up a voting base and nothing will ever happen. Same as the Dems are doing with impeachment.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:52 pm to Jax-Tiger
Public mud slinging
Private cigars and whiskey.
Private cigars and whiskey.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:54 pm to Jax-Tiger
1
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:06 pm to Jax-Tiger
Declas
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:18 pm to Jax-Tiger
Letters in some agents’ personnel files. Some meaningless FISA reform and other legislation.
We are truly toast as a Nation.
We are truly toast as a Nation.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 1:19 pm
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