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What changed political views and the animosity of parties so much in 2000?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:12 pm
Seems like the 90s were the last year of moderates controlling things and people were not so polarized. Bush vs. Gore seemed to be a swinging point, but post 9/11 Bush had the highest approval rating in American history (upper 80s% job approval). What was the fundamental change in your opinion?
Maybe it's just me...but I feel like around 2000 you went from the "things we don't say or act upon in polite society" to one side maintaining that view and the other side stirring the pot creating polarization on cultural issues.
Furthermore...it was 1996 where TN, AR, LA, and KY were all Democratic states and CO, VA, and NC were all safe Republican states.
Maybe it's just me...but I feel like around 2000 you went from the "things we don't say or act upon in polite society" to one side maintaining that view and the other side stirring the pot creating polarization on cultural issues.
Furthermore...it was 1996 where TN, AR, LA, and KY were all Democratic states and CO, VA, and NC were all safe Republican states.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:14 pm
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:15 pm to rpg37
Internet & cell phones which gives more information to voters. You can’t lie to people and expect them to trust you when you find out they’re all corrupt.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:17 pm to momentoftruth87
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Internet & cell phones which gives more information to voters. You can’t lie to people and expect them to trust you when you find out they’re all corrupt.
Election turnout has not increased and corruption has not decreased. Information is not always balanced.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:22 pm to rpg37
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:27 pm to rpg37
The left has become radical.
Bill Clinton confided in Dick Morris during his first 4 years that it was becoming a struggle to keep the far left crazies under control in the Democratic Party.
Bill Clinton confided in Dick Morris during his first 4 years that it was becoming a struggle to keep the far left crazies under control in the Democratic Party.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:37 pm to rpg37
The woke left. They’ve continuously gotten more and more ridiculous and gone so far left the last 10 years with impunity. It’s almost like they just wanted to see how much they could get away with. On the right, if you go too far right, you get in trouble. You get cancelled, etc. And you sure as hell don’t control the narrative. There hasn’t been much of a consequence on the left to this point, but I think the Israel / Palestine thing of all things is changing the tides a bit. The Claudine Gay thing basically turned DEI on its head. That, and Elon owning X, along with guys like Joe Rogan and Bill Maher speaking up, those guys all being traditional Democrats but being called “far right nut jobs” by a LOT of folks on the left.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:40 pm to rpg37
Around 2000 huh? Like 2001?
Like 9/11/01?
Like 9/11/01?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:43 pm to rpg37
Bush was only popular because we were at war
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:52 pm to Dingbag
Everyone keeps saying gone so far left, but I'd say gone so far down, & taking our country with them..
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:55 pm to Brosef Stalin
Animosity started when they started openly calling people on the right bad people - See deplorables etc . Started insinuating if you don't support health care for all you are a terrible person. When you don't support abortion your worse than scum. When you don't support gays banging in front of your children - you are a pariah. When they took over HR departments of every big business and started advertising the same non - sense. When they took over academia and infected schools. The low IQ voter doesn't know why they hate you- They just do. The media mind fk combined with very uninformed idiots is a recipe for hate. I have never once stopped being friends with someone with different politics than me but 99pct of leftist who preach that morality BS have attacked family members and stopped being friends with their right wing friends. The world has gone mad.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:10 am to rpg37
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What was the fundamental change
Obama destroyed everything and is still in the process of destroying by proxy
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:18 am to rpg37
I am a staunch conservative but... Gore got screwed in 2000 and the left never forgot it. Clinton was the democrats version of Reagan. When his successor was screwed, that was it.
Ballot screw ups (mainly people voting for Pat Buchanan by accident) gave Bush the win. The left never forgot this.
The GOP didn't cheat but the Dems were screwed in 2000.
Not my president was born in 2000.
Ballot screw ups (mainly people voting for Pat Buchanan by accident) gave Bush the win. The left never forgot this.
The GOP didn't cheat but the Dems were screwed in 2000.
Not my president was born in 2000.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:18 am to Revelator
Obama weaponized the internet intelligence agencies and MIC with wokeness ideology.
We are rotting from the inside out.
We are rotting from the inside out.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:26 am to rpg37
In 1994 the Repubs took control of congress. The first time since...Eisenhower I believe?
Republicans might have won a presidency now and then, but dems ALWAYS controlled the house. But now, Rs were real contenders. No more Ron Reagan, Tip O'Neal nonsense. Rs became the enemy.
You add in what Dems saw as an illegimate president in Bush and that's why the 2000s where the way they were.
But the other responders are also correct. Media changed. Academia changed (always liberal, but now metastasizing to dominate institutions as cultural marxism). And lot of other longterm trends coming to fruition as well.
Republicans might have won a presidency now and then, but dems ALWAYS controlled the house. But now, Rs were real contenders. No more Ron Reagan, Tip O'Neal nonsense. Rs became the enemy.
You add in what Dems saw as an illegimate president in Bush and that's why the 2000s where the way they were.
But the other responders are also correct. Media changed. Academia changed (always liberal, but now metastasizing to dominate institutions as cultural marxism). And lot of other longterm trends coming to fruition as well.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:28 am to This GUN for HIRE
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Everyone keeps saying gone so far left, but I'd say gone so far down
I actually say that exact same thing whenever I’m discussing it, because I don’t even know if I would call it left anymore. It’s kind of an insult to actual liberals.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:54 am to momentoftruth87
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Internet & cell phones which gives more false information to voters.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:08 am to rpg37
2008-12 is when it went sideways.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:18 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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The media mind fk combined with very uninformed idiots is a recipe for hate.
Fundamental truth.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:26 am to CrimsonFever
Yes and no.
Example, I don’t lie but when I was a recruiter I’d get the occasional recruiters lie blah blah. My response to that and any applicant was to search the internet. This correlates because those who lie get caught because people have access to information.
Yes there’s tons of mis/disinformation but before this age of technology people had little resources to challenge most things.
The internet and cellphones these days makes politics more ubiquitous along with the ability for debate and discussion.
Example, I don’t lie but when I was a recruiter I’d get the occasional recruiters lie blah blah. My response to that and any applicant was to search the internet. This correlates because those who lie get caught because people have access to information.
Yes there’s tons of mis/disinformation but before this age of technology people had little resources to challenge most things.
The internet and cellphones these days makes politics more ubiquitous along with the ability for debate and discussion.
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