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What are some reasonable policies that can stop homegrown islamic terrorism?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:12 pm
It's a bigger problem in Europe, obviously, but the alarming this is that many of these terror incidents and many of the terror cells that have been busted have mainly been carried out or consisted of by younger Muslims that grew up in the west.
What can policymakers do within the realm of ethical behavior (aka no surveillance, no constant monitoring) that can stop the younger minds from being drawn into this crap?
What can policymakers do within the realm of ethical behavior (aka no surveillance, no constant monitoring) that can stop the younger minds from being drawn into this crap?
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Don't let the virus in
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Make racism and xenophobia more popular.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Honestly not trying to sound racist, the left can roast me idc, but racial profiling. Screw people's feelings. Don't really give a shite if that offends people. I'd rather people be pissed or upset about that policy, than innocent American or non American lives are taken away because of some arsehole who hates America and what it stands for.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:17 pm to Strannix
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Don't let the virus in
Declare war on Islam. Root it out and kill it in this country. They have declared war on us and see our inability to take effective action weak and worthless.
Until we take them in hand we will have their contempt. Put a fricking on them the way we did the Japanese and Germans and the problem will abate.
And go armed.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:19 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Declare war on Islamic terrorism
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:22 pm to LSU12223
They're all POS
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:22 pm to LSU12223
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Declare war on Islamic terrorism
Keep it simple. The whole problem has to be dealt with.
If 2% or .2% of them are willing to drive a car into a crowd and stab the first responders, they can hide among the other 98% or 99.8%. They all have to go.
Their creed allows them to lie to gain advantage. Taking an oath to the Constitution, as the Fort Hood shooter did, means nothing to them.
They have to go.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What about other types of homegrown terrorism (e.g. the attack in NYC just this week by a white supremacist)? Why limit your focus?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:27 pm to BamaAtl
quote:All homegrown terrorism is a problem, but the type calls for different solutions. Dealing with radical fringe islamic networks that have too much influence in islamic youth groups is a different problem than networks of white supremacists, at least from a policy perspective.
What about other types of homegrown terrorism (e.g. the attack in NYC just this week by a white supremacist)? Why limit your focus?
What if, for example, white nationalism terrorism is correlated more with things like biker gangs and drug issues, while islamic terrorism is correlated more with radical, fringe imams in the religious community who pervert young islamic minds to carry out things that are not really what islam is all about?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:27 pm to BamaAtl
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What about other types of homegrown terrorism (e.g. the attack in NYC just this week by a white supremacist)? Why limit your focus?
Islam is not home grown. They are marked more by their actions. I don't know that the Dylan Roofs of the world want to overthrow our society root and branch.
The Islamists do.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Dealing with radical fringe islamic networks that have too much influence in islamic youth groups is a different problem than networks of white supremacists, at least from a policy perspective.
Why is that different from dealing with radical fringe christian white supremacist networks that have too much influence in christian youth groups?
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What if, for example, white nationalism terrorism is correlated more with things like biker gangs and drug issues, while islamic terrorism is correlated more with radical, fringe imams in the religious community who pervert young islamic minds to carry out things that are not really what islam is all about?
Link?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What can policymakers do within the realm of ethical behavior (aka no surveillance, no constant monitoring) that can stop the younger minds from being drawn into this crap?
Ethical behavior would mandate the end of Islam in the United States and would eject its practitioners.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:30 pm to BamaAtl
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What about other types of homegrown terrorism (e.g. the attack in NYC just this week by a white supremacist)? Why limit your focus
That's an easy one, allow open carry or concealed carry legal everywhere. Won't solve the problem nothing honestly can, but it will cause the numbers for mass killings go down where they may get one or two or maybe three, instead of 35.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:32 pm to BamaAtl
quote:It was a hypothetical to answer your answer as to why they may be treated differently.
Link?
Nationalist terrorism is not always about religion. Indeed, there are many skinheads who are very secular.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Well I think the reasons we've had fewer problems is (geography helps) is the smaller density (exposed to others), and it may be far less than we would like, but compared to Europe, we still place more value on self-determinism, freedom, and opportunity. When you combine those values, and the exposure to other views, it's easier to naturally assimilate.
It's a bigger problem in Europe, obviously, but the alarming this is that many of these terror incidents and many of the terror cells that have been busted have mainly been carried out or consisted of by younger Muslims that grew up in the west.
What can policymakers do within the realm of ethical behavior (aka no surveillance, no constant monitoring) that can stop the younger minds from being drawn into this crap?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It was a hypothetical to answer your answer as to why they may be treated differently.
In the real, not hypothetical, world we have no information (that you know of) to say that the two types are fundamentally different.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:37 pm to BamaAtl
God damn man. You're saying Muslim terrorist attacks and White Supremacist attacks should be viewed in the same lens? What a fricking kook. 
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:40 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I personally believe that white nationalist terrorism is a bit more reprehensible than islamic terrorism because the people that carry out the former did not grow up in a country, civilization that wasn't as lacking in education or modernity.
In the real, not hypothetical, world we have no information (that you know of) to say that the two types are fundamentally different.
Islamic terrorists, even ones that grow up in the west, are still held back by certain values and beliefs that haven't been "fixed" by modern education or universal access to education.
A white nationalist terrorist who grew up in suburban detroit is more likely to be truly evil than a islamic terrorist who is a victim of certain uneducated and backward cultural teachings.
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