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re: Weather Channel getting in on the Anti-Fracking Movement

Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:39 am to
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:39 am to
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Turner wasn't involved.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:39 am to
You'd have no problem day after day breathing in various amounts of H2S, methane, ethane, benzene whatever in trace amounts? Not to mention the fricking dust down there due to all the dirt moving ops.

Basically, their living in the middle of a giant chemical plant.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:40 am to
Its almost like the companies that own TV stations use them for PR and propaganda for things that benefit them....


That said it is highly unethical for them to not disclose their conflict of interest.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:41 am to
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Basically, their living in the middle of a giant chemical plant.


People work in chemical plants for 30+ years. How bout we not use scare tactics.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:43 am to
If H2S is suspected of being released into neighborhoods, I would have H2S monitoring set up around my house and neighborhood by a third party. If any hits were recorded and depending on concentration and frequency you'd probably have a pretty strong case in court against the violators.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:45 am to
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You'd have no problem day after day breathing in various amounts of H2S, methane, ethane, benzene whatever in trace amounts
I said I would not want to live there. The smell alone would drive me crazy. The ES is not the only area in the US where H2S and mercaptans are an issue. Sometimes the smell is worse than other times and the locals complain, but I don't recall any abnormal health issues being discussed in these other regions.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:47 am to
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That said it is highly unethical for them to not disclose their conflict of interest.

Maybe I missed it but what is the TWC's conflict of interest here?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:48 am to
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How bout we not use scare tactics.


Sure. And therein lies the problem between the industry and its critics. The industry says it's 100% safe, no problems and the detractors claim everything's polluted we're all gonna die. Both are false.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:48 am to
First time I think anyone has considered an earthquake and fracking to be weather related events. As noted above look at who owns them or what to expect the reporting to find an answer to the "problem". This will be taken as gospel truth by very many people. The intelligence of far too many low information voters was displayed by a night time comedian on the streets when he informed brainless idiots on the streets of LA of the recent death of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Someone needs to place a yellow dog on a ballot with a D behind his name and see how many votes he gets.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:48 am to
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If H2S is suspected of being released into neighborhoods
My H2S monitor has gone off while I was on the can.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
858 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:50 am to
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My H2S monitor has gone off while I was on the can.
Haha
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:50 am to
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Sure. And therein lies the problem between the industry and its critics. The industry says it's 100% safe, no problems and the detractors claim everything's polluted we're all gonna die. Both are false.



I agree with this.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:51 am to
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I said I would not want to live there. The smell alone would drive me crazy. The ES is not the only area in the US where H2S and mercaptans are an issue. Sometimes the smell is worse than other times and the locals complain, but I don't recall any abnormal health issues being discussed in these other regions.


There are maybe 2 other regions in the country that are seeing this much activity - the Permian and the Marcellus. Shale drilling isn't like drilling conventional prospects. It's a large scale industrial process. In the EF we built a field where none had existed before so this entailed a lot more than drilling a few wells here and there...it was multi pad wells, flowlines, gathering lines, trunk lines, central facilities, plants, roads, electrical lines, 10 acre frac ponds, etc. It's really unbelievable. I've never seen anything like it before.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:51 am to
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I agree with this.
So do I
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:52 am to
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If H2S is suspected of being released into neighborhoods, I would have H2S monitoring set up around my house and neighborhood by a third party. If any hits were recorded and depending on concentration and frequency you'd probably have a pretty strong case in court against the violators.


Would you agree that when it comes to this type of thing you are vastly more sophisticated than most of the folks living down there?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:55 am to
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Would you agree that when it comes to this type of thing you are vastly more sophisticated than most of the folks living down there?


Yes, given the fact I have been educated by and work in industry and basically grew up around it. I get your point.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:58 am to
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Would you agree that when it comes to this type of thing you are vastly more sophisticated than most of the folks living down there
Depending the PPM level the producer/plant/facility should be equipped with monitors and alarms in case of a problem to alert nearby neighbors. H2H is not as deadly on a windy day as it is on a very calm day. Its heavy and settles in low lying areas.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98181 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 2:06 pm to
Meanwhile, there have been swarms of earthquakes in Oklahoma, and that staunch leftist Sam Brownback has convened a panel to find out why the same thing is happening in Kansas LINK
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56322 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Not exactly. TWC is a joint venture between NBCUniversal, which is owned by Comcast Cable
Was owned by GE at the time.
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