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We as conservatives don't know much about Antifa - Let's fix that here.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:49 am
I started with Googling "Former Antifa member"
This is the first article that came up.
LINK
It's kinda long as a fair warning but it does give SOME insight into Antifa from a former "member" and why he left the "group".
Add more to contribute.
Some quotes:
This is the first article that came up.
LINK
It's kinda long as a fair warning but it does give SOME insight into Antifa from a former "member" and why he left the "group".
Add more to contribute.
Some quotes:
quote:
February 9, 2017 Former ‘Antifa’ Speaks Out Against ‘Antifa’ 13 by Keith Preston • Left and Right, Uncategorized • Tags: antifa former-antifa-speaks-out-against-antifa *EXCLUSIVE* Former Antifa Speaks Out Against Antifa I’ve decided to submit this article anonymously to protect against any potential retaliation. I like to start off by saying that, although I now disavow Antifa, I will always be Anti-Fascist, against racism and against hatred. In order to understand Antifa and how they operate and “recruit”, I will start by telling how I became involved with Antifa. My story beings in the Fall of 2005. I was 15-years-old, a Sophomore in High School and recently had gotten into the underground Punk and Hardcore scene. It was Friday and my friends and I were pumped about an Oi/Punk/Hardcore show that was taking place that evening in the city. This was only my 4th or 5th show that I had been to, but they were always a good time to be had by all…. until this night.
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I was eventually dismayed to find that what Antifa preaches is “Stay in your predetermined-by-skin-colour societal role, people who merely DISAGREE with us are legitimate targets, “#yesallwhitepeople” are racist deep down even white antifa (a slap in the face if you ask me!) censor your own thoughts, believe everything the government tells you but they’re evil (and yet somehow the looming spectre of WORLD GOVERNMENT, the ultimate fascism (globalism) isn’t real or a threat to human liberty?!) And they support the un-supportable (So Stalin, Mao, and a bunch of other dick-taters were solid dudes, but Alex Jones is literally Hitler? give me a break)
Basically, I want peace among the races and worker’s rights, just like them, and I might even go down to May Day in Winnipeg this year if it isn’t overrun by SJWs, but I won’t attack people for just disagreeing, & I also value using my brain to come to conclusions rather than believing any “doctrine” & I have also become worried about the totalitarian, brownshirt mentality they have taken on. And when you examine things with your brain, a lot of the accusations of sexism, racism, “Islamophobia” &.c. are completely unfounded and only serve to divide, rather than unite. I have also realized that even though the State is oppressive to an extent, it is also the State that protects us from “unelected politicians” like they have in the EU, and an eventual world government. This means that a militant anti-State group is doing the work of the globalists in the long run, and I can’t take part in that!
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:57 am to roadGator
antifa are the communists. That needs to be identified and said everytime. Fascism did almost wipe out communism world wide, even while the world was attacking fascism.
https://imgur.com/gallery/BcZOg
That is a link to the antifa manual. Posting page one, but more at the link.
Introduction
If you are reading this, it's because someone close to our movement trusted you with it. Please do not distribute to anyone who may attempt to harm or denigrate what we are doing.
This is an ANTI-FASCIST or ANTIFA manual. If you are reading this, you already know that we are a social justice movement against hatred, intolerance and bigotry.
This manual outlines where we've been, where we're at, and where we're headed within the next 100 years.
But first, to understand how we got here, we have to understand…
White Privilege
For hundreds if not thousands of years, the cis white male power structure controlled the media and disbursement of information. First came the printing press[controlled by white males]. Then came mass media such as newspapers and television [controlled by white males]. But the next evolution of media was born in a time when the cis white male power structure began to lose its firm grip on the dissemination of ideas. Some of our kind have begun to infiltrate high-level position of power in major media organizations.
And of course… the new king of idea dissemination is Social Media. This is the new battleground for our war against fascism.
Whites, especially cis white males, have proven to be the greatest evil mankind has ever known. From Hitler to our very own Harry S. Truman (who dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki), to the slave traders of old, no on e has proven to do more harm to mankind than white men.
From their murderous plundering [e.g. of the Native Americans and African slaves], white males have achieved status and power in the United States and Western Europe. Never indulge any fantasy by the fascists that white men have also cured diseases, lifted people out of poverty through western capitalsim/democracy, or any other facetious claim they may make about such men. Their gains were only achieved through rape and plunder.
https://imgur.com/gallery/BcZOg
That is a link to the antifa manual. Posting page one, but more at the link.
Introduction
If you are reading this, it's because someone close to our movement trusted you with it. Please do not distribute to anyone who may attempt to harm or denigrate what we are doing.
This is an ANTI-FASCIST or ANTIFA manual. If you are reading this, you already know that we are a social justice movement against hatred, intolerance and bigotry.
This manual outlines where we've been, where we're at, and where we're headed within the next 100 years.
But first, to understand how we got here, we have to understand…
White Privilege
For hundreds if not thousands of years, the cis white male power structure controlled the media and disbursement of information. First came the printing press[controlled by white males]. Then came mass media such as newspapers and television [controlled by white males]. But the next evolution of media was born in a time when the cis white male power structure began to lose its firm grip on the dissemination of ideas. Some of our kind have begun to infiltrate high-level position of power in major media organizations.
And of course… the new king of idea dissemination is Social Media. This is the new battleground for our war against fascism.
Whites, especially cis white males, have proven to be the greatest evil mankind has ever known. From Hitler to our very own Harry S. Truman (who dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki), to the slave traders of old, no on e has proven to do more harm to mankind than white men.
From their murderous plundering [e.g. of the Native Americans and African slaves], white males have achieved status and power in the United States and Western Europe. Never indulge any fantasy by the fascists that white men have also cured diseases, lifted people out of poverty through western capitalsim/democracy, or any other facetious claim they may make about such men. Their gains were only achieved through rape and plunder.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:08 am to roadGator
What you need to know today:
Antifa = AntiFascist - A knee-jerk terrorist organization organized in opposition to radicalized right wing terrorist. It is looked at - as collection of black-life'd malatov cocktail throwing, statue toppling jobless hooligans, hippy wanna be, socialist.
The extreme other side - is championed by assholes - characterized as torch and shield carrying, skin-headed, bed wetting, white-hooded-sheet-wearing warriors.
The sooner we rid the planet of both - the better off - the rest of legitimate humanity will be.
Antifa = AntiFascist - A knee-jerk terrorist organization organized in opposition to radicalized right wing terrorist. It is looked at - as collection of black-life'd malatov cocktail throwing, statue toppling jobless hooligans, hippy wanna be, socialist.
The extreme other side - is championed by assholes - characterized as torch and shield carrying, skin-headed, bed wetting, white-hooded-sheet-wearing warriors.
The sooner we rid the planet of both - the better off - the rest of legitimate humanity will be.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:09 am to awestruck
eta: Trunp was right - they both were in the wrong
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:14 am to zatetic
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For hundreds if not thousands of years, the cis white male power structure controlled the media and disbursement of information. First came the printing press[controlled by white males]. Then came mass media such as newspapers and television [controlled by white males]. But the next evolution of media was born in a time when the cis white male power structure began to lose its firm grip on the dissemination of ideas. Some of our kind have begun to infiltrate high-level position of power in major media organizations.
This crapola is incredulous but I know it's real. Seriously, how do you beat this shite back? How are people with fully functional brains taking this download?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:15 am to awestruck
They aren't really jobless. They are collecting a check from Soros for this full time rabble rousing
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:18 am to roadGator
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We as conservatives shouldn't give a shite about Antifa - Let's not complicate things.
FIFY
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:31 am to Bass Tiger
Well they have controlled the media and education for generations now.
Really the only group to beat this shite back is the far right, dare i say it, the "nazis." The far, far right fights against the communists, creates imagery fighting the left, espouses traditional ideals to motivate the youth to a moral life, etc. The middle does nothing, they are just there, zombies. A lot of people here are still stuck in the illusion that they've been indoctrinated with their whole life. There are really only two groups that matter, the communists and the fascists. Everyone else just wants to see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil. Liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism, etc. are very, very individualistic and will ultimately always lose to a collective. There is no passion with those groups because they are groups of individuals. There is no greater good to fight for, you are just plugging away for yourself.
Really the only group to beat this shite back is the far right, dare i say it, the "nazis." The far, far right fights against the communists, creates imagery fighting the left, espouses traditional ideals to motivate the youth to a moral life, etc. The middle does nothing, they are just there, zombies. A lot of people here are still stuck in the illusion that they've been indoctrinated with their whole life. There are really only two groups that matter, the communists and the fascists. Everyone else just wants to see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil. Liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism, etc. are very, very individualistic and will ultimately always lose to a collective. There is no passion with those groups because they are groups of individuals. There is no greater good to fight for, you are just plugging away for yourself.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:33 am to roadGator
is ANTIFA an actual organization? or is it just a bunch of retarded basement dwellers that attach themselves to the name because they want to belong to something?
kinda like the "BLM murders"?
kinda like the "BLM murders"?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:03 am to roadGator
One of the most well known examples I can find of ANTIFA activity in this country is when they shut down Seattle in 1999 for 4 days with riots against the WTO meeting.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:08 am to Salmon
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is ANTIFA an actual organization? or is it just a bunch of retarded basement dwellers that attach themselves to the name because they want to belong to something?
BMY says that they aren't a group. Then another liberal says they are a group. I don't know. If you google antifa website it gives you itsgoingdown.org (pretty ominous). It also give you a website for NY Antifa.
They seem to be less organized than BLM who has members and discriminates based on skin tone up until the point antifa wants to riot/march whatever and then they seem to have this organization thing down to rally the "troops". That part is being done on social media and as you can imagine includes some violent and even murderous rhetoric.
So....
ETA: Notice that I put group in quotes in my original post.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:10 am to roadGator
if I had to guess, there is probably some very small organized groups in larger cities, but the vast majority of ANTIFA are just people latching on to the name and forming their own "groups"
I doubt there is an ANTIFA mailing list
I doubt there is an ANTIFA mailing list
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