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re: Washington State Supreme Court rules that the Bar Exam is racist and no longer required.

Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49549 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:34 pm to
So, any yahoo can practice law there, regardless of their education or lack thereof?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260117 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:35 pm to
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How depressing is it to watch what used to be somewhat ethical and righteous practice of law becoming the laughingstock that it is turning into?


Activists ruin everything they touch.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:40 pm to
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No one has argued the bar is a fool proof way to cut morons out of the profession. It is a barrier for entry for people who cannot grasp the basic fundamentals of a number of basic practice areas. It is not asking you to master these areas - just enough to pass essay or multiple choice questions.


I always thought these types of professional exams should be in two parts.

Upon graduation, pass an exam that, as you say, is a barrier for entry. Upon passing this you get granted some sort of apprentice or provisional status.

At this level you can't practice on your own, you need to be supervised.

Then at some point, maybe it's 5 years down the road, maybe it's not a time table but whenever a candidate feels like they are ready, etc, they take a second, harder exam, and if they pass that, they get a full certificate status.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1086 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:51 pm to
I have known 10-12 lawyers well enough to get an opinion, the ones I know I don’t consider any of them smart
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19273 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:56 pm to
So the thugs who are convicted will have a 10000% chance to file / win an appeal based on incompetent legal representation? This will spread way beyond criminal law & open up every field of legal practice to winnable appeals guaranteed at every level of legal disputes. How soon will it take for Morris Bart to send out his team of paralegals / attys to set up offices all along the Coast?
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1419 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:58 pm to
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So, any yahoo can practice law there, regardless of their education or lack thereof?


If they are black
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14977 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:00 pm to
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AuburnTigers



That's a very good and pertinent gif because we are watching Idiocracy coming to fruition right before our eyes, courtesy of the left wing
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23160 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:03 pm to
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The same outfit is going to be finding marginalized groups are disproportionately, negatively affected by ineffective assistance of counsel in about a decade


Well said.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
766 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Does Washington have reciprocal licenses with other states? I can see SU grads who can’t pass the bar getting licensed there if it is reciprocal with Louisiana.


WA has (at least previously) required applicants from other states to pass a state specific test in edition to providing the evidence of fitness and admission to practice in the reciprocal state.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68466 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:55 pm to
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The same outfit is going to be finding marginalized groups are disproportionately, negatively affected by ineffective assistance of counsel in about a decade


Still have your vote though, thats all that matters.


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:57 pm to
So I can change my sig to DMAN1968, Esq.



Sweet
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19419 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:05 pm to
More nonsense from the inmates running the leftist asylum.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11971 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:18 pm to
Do you need a Bar Exam if you are going to release felons as soon as the trial is over?
Wild wild West. Shootem before they shoot you.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
766 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:27 pm to
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It should still be offered and then people can choose if they want an attorney who passed the bar to represent them or not.


I haven't seen a proposed order that would do away with the bar exam as an option. There are two three proposed alternatives to the bar exam, namely:

(1) Law School Graduates can do a combination of a 6 month internship and take some courses

(2) Law School Students can do an internship and have some skills courses

(3) Law Clerks will have a non-law school route by showing certain skills requirements, taking a different group of classes and doing the internship.

WA state will get some more revenue because the internship will be licensed, so there should be some licensing revenue from that activities.

Law schools will probably retool to offer the adult education from option 3 along with becoming very competitive with the internships they manage. Those will probably also fill some staffing vacancies in public legal agencies.

The 6 month internship for graduates doesn't likely change much except to allow BigLaw to start billing their new associates quicker. It usually takes at least that long to get barred after graduation. See Volokh Conspiracy

Its impact could be felt on "Access to Law" as the bar exam appears to reduce the available work force of attorneys by about 16%. Id.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 5:29 pm
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