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re: VA Gov vetoes bill to investigate proven voter fraud in Virginia

Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:30 am to
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Spend that $10k that's not supposed to be there and see how false it is.


Has nothing to do with being registered in multiple states proving voter fraud.

Thanks for playing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:30 am to
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Bannon and Mnuchin committed fraud for being registered in multiple states?

why not investigate who this same scenario applies to within their rolls so they can purge these names and clean things up?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:30 am to
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How come legal voters are not considered disenfranchised when illegal votes are cast? It seems to me for every illegal vote cast a legal vote is disenfranchised.


Because illegal votes are cast in minuscule amounts. Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:31 am to
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Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.

what rate do you consider "astronomical"?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:32 am to
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why not investigate


Where did I say we shouldn't?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:35 am to
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why not investigate who this same scenario applies to within their rolls so they can purge these names and clean things up?


this is what they are doing


quote:

Rather than imposing unnecessary investigative requirements on those officials, we should focus attention and resources on the Commonwealth’s proven and efficient methods of list maintenance, which serve as a national model.


LINK
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:36 am to
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this is what they are doing


WE WANT OUR RED MEAT!!

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:36 am to
Wasn't this the same guy who, right before the election, pardoned some 60,000 felons and had the state govt quickly process their voting eligibility so they could vote Democrat?

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to
As long as the word "fraud" is designated in a bill the left will always oppose it. What state's should be doing, just like they have to have balanced budgets, they should also mandate that "voter rolls" have to be legally updated every year. Has the same effect without "that word" in the bill.

Kind of like mowing your yard - to keep it looking like most people want their yards to look, you mow it when it needs it, not just when you feel like it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73444 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to
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Wasn't this the same guy who, right before the election, pardoned some 60,000 felons and had the state govt quickly process their voting eligibility so they could vote Democrat?
Correct, which is why he holds it up as a model for the nation.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:39 am to
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Because illegal votes are cast in minuscule amounts. Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.


Gonna need some hard data to back those claims up.

It's not that I don't believe you; it's just that, well, I don't believe you.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:41 am to
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Legal voters are disenfranchised at astronomically higher rates when voter ID laws are enacted.


Link or bullshite?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:43 am to
Virginia is chock full of voter fraud and he knows it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:43 am to
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this is what they are doing

it doesn't seem like they're doing an investigation with a report as much as maintaining the status quo

obviously those maintenance regs are leaving gaps and i don't see why it's such a big deal to investigate why those gaps exist in certain counties. at worst, it would just make them clean up the maintenance regs to make them more efficient
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:44 am to
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what rate do you consider "astronomical"?


I would say 31 cases of confirmed in-person voter fraud out of 1B+ votes cast, vs millions disenfranchised by voter ID laws every election if they were instituted nation wide, would count as astronomically higher.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:45 am to
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Gonna need some hard data to back those claims up.


Asked before. Provided before. The links are on this board. Do less believing, and more research of your own, champ.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59923 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:47 am to
WTF are election officials doing in between elections? One would think this doesn't of task would be part of the job description.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:49 am to
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I would say 31 cases of confirmed in-person voter fraud

i did not ask about this

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vs millions disenfranchised by voter ID laws

link?
Posted by GALSUtiger
Snellville, Georgia
Member since Aug 2006
778 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:50 am to
Wow, if your not smart enough to get a voter ID or get someone to help you, I cannot believe you're smart enough to be voting.

That's the problem with voting today, we let people vote that have no idea what their voting for. These voters are disenfranchising the ones who take the time to find out the true issues.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:51 am to
can we have an investigation and get the actual numbers of fraudulent votes cast? Rather than back and forth speculation where you lowball and we highball?
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:53 am
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