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U.S., other powers kick Russia out of G8...er I guess G7 now

Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:39 pm
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U.S. President Barack Obama and other world leaders have decided to end Russia's role in the group of leading industrialized nations, the White House said Monday.

The move to suspend Russia's membership in the G8 is the latest direct response from major countries allied against Russia's annexation of Crimea.

"International law prohibits the acquisition of part or all of another state's territory through coercion or force," the statement said. "To do so violates the principles upon which the international system is built. We condemn the illegal referendum held in Crimea in violation of Ukraine's constitution.


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Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:41 pm to
Not sure how much that hurts them but ok
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Not sure how much that hurts them but ok

Ehh...nothing hurts in the short term. Ask Putin's cronies how these sanctions feel in 6 months.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:01 pm to
This is the kind of stuff they should have started with. Don't threaten military actions or intervention.

I'm glad to see they quit talking and are now acting.

Now let's see how Putin responds.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5625 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:06 pm to
Russians play chess. Americans play poker. Putin has planned several moves ahead, but he doesn't know what we hold or how we'll play it. He may miscalculate.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:10 pm to
Good. Glad the other members of the G8 had the balls to take action. Sort of surprised China isn't a member but considering the current circumstances it's easy to see why; would be just another mess like the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:10 pm to
Irrelevant.

This move is just for show.

Russia has been aligned with the BRIC's for some time. Russia, China, India, and Brazil represent the BRIC's and some project these economies to eclipse the G7's in the near future.

Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:11 pm to
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near future.



how soon is near?
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Ehh...nothing hurts in the short term. Ask Putin's cronies how these sanctions feel in 6 months.


The only thing (other than American/NATO troops being sent to Ukraine) that has half a chance of getting Putin to reverse or come to the table would be for Obama to put the missile defense system back in Poland and NATO begins military drills in the area. Other than that this is going to a LONG time. The US can hurt Russia by sanctions, asset freezes, etc and increased export of NG to europe but we are talking 2-5 years.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:19 pm to
Putin will FINALLY lose veto power in the UN security council, as well.

Russia's status will weaken in the long- term.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Russians play chess. Americans play poker. Putin has planned several moves ahead, but he doesn't know what we hold or how we'll play it. He may miscalculate.


This is such bullshite...Putin had the Ukraine blow up in his face and has tried to save said face with an invasion and the result is he has further alienated Russia from the world...so what is Putin winning but for a crime ridden, ethnically volatile peninsula?
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:29 pm to


MICEX - Russian Stock Market
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Putin will FINALLY lose veto power in the UN security council, as well. Russia's status will weaken in the long- term.
I do not see this happening.
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

This is such bullshite...Putin had the Ukraine blow up in his face and has tried to save said face with an invasion


I agree he had Ukraine in his back pocket until the protests started.

quote:

e has further alienated Russia from the world


Putin gives 0 freaks about what the rest of the world thinks

quote:

what is Putin winning but for a crime ridden, ethnically volatile peninsula?


Well Crimea is the home of the Russian Black sea fleet and the only Russian port that doesn't freeze.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10445 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:34 pm to
Putin does not give a frick!!
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Putin does not give a frick!!

Yeah, the honey badger don't care either...but he's a professional athlete, not a world leader.

He's going to lead his country right down the toilet for no good reason...Of course all the Putin fellators will be impressed with how he's "pwning Obama"

Putin = Palin w/ a peen



Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Russians play chess. Americans play poker.

I can see it now:

PUTIN: "Check"

OBAMA: "Check"

PUTIN: "CHECK"

OBAMA: "You already checked to me."

PUTIN:
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:03 pm to
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Putin = Palin w/ a peen
He can see the US from his dacha?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21827 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:10 pm to
awesome
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:33 pm to
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Big12fan


Thank you for something of actual relevance to the thread with a bit of substance.

Bric alignment? Palin? Putin DGIF?

We shall see how it all plays out. I don't see Russia ever giving up the Crimea because of its strategic importance. I also don't see Russia ever checkmating the USA with BRIC, sure they are populous, and..... and?

I would love to see Russia's role in the UN diminished. Doubtful though. China DGIF.

If we were serious, we would impact flow of Russian Oil and Gas through the pipelines that are basically indefensible. It may yet come to that. Maybe we could blame the Ukrainians, but that would give him the pretext he needs to expand his conquest even further.

Interesting times!
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