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re: US Army says the word Negro is now an acceptable term for black servicemen
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:44 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:44 am to TigerintheNO
Why is it ok to call blacks "people of color", but "colored" is offensive.
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:46 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:47 am to SpidermanTUba
why would you want the commander of the armed forces (of which the army is a part) to operate under different human rights standards than those he commands? doesn't seem very progressive, but I know you don't have any real standards, so i'm pissing in the wind.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:49 am to upgrayedd
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Why is it ok to call blacks "people of color", but "colored" is offensive.
it's all about the secondary meaning--no word has "inherent" meaning--all language is a creation of the cultures from which it was formed.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:51 am to McLemore
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why would you want the commander of the armed forces (of which the army is a part) to operate under different human rights standards than those he commands?
To be fair, the CIC in the United States is SPECIFICALLY "civilian". The U.S. has Civilian control of the armed forces.
Thus, The POTUS is specifically and by constitutional definition NOT a member of the Armed Forces.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:53 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
fair enough from a constitutional etc perspective but my point remains--why would there be a different standard with respect to ethnic designation? i understand rank etc. but not ethnicity/race.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:00 am to McLemore
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fair enough from a constitutional etc perspective but my point remains--why would there be a different standard with respect to ethnic designation? i understand rank etc. but not ethnicity/race.
1) You may refer to the president in any way you'd like
2) This thread OP was about a specific circumstance for identifying race in the Army.
3) Therefore, it does NOT pertain to the POTUS
I see very little reason to have a reg of identifying the race of the POTUS. There is only one at a time. It seems superfluous. There are LOTS of members of the Army at any time. IDing for race seems more useful in that case.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:02 am to lsu480
Where did you come from, a scotch ad?
You two look like a couple of boogies.
You two look like a couple of boogies.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:02 am to Bmath
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It is the accepted term in anthropology.
Thats my point. It actually has some scientific basis, and not some bullshite PC rationale.
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I've always felt African-American was too assuming of a term. My friend's wife's family came from the Caribbean. He always felt that AA completely disregarded that part of her heritage.
interesting point. Besides AA is just stupid.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:03 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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IDing for race seems more useful in that case.
We shouldn't be doing it at all - except in very rare cases when it means something like in health care issues - which would be protected by HIPPA anyway.
Colorblindness has to start somewhere - the fact that we're debating the minutia of what to call people based on immutable characteristics - outside that person's control, or how far a clearly racial term should extend to a multi-racial President - I mean, at some point, don't we just have to draw a line and say enough?
Do I sound like Morgan Freeman in this rant? Because it would be cool if people starting reading my posts in his voice.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:03 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
So let me get this straight...
Colored is offensive? What about the NAACP?
Negro is offensive? What about the United Negro College Fund?
This shite is too confusing. Can I just call them Caucasianally challenged?
Colored is offensive? What about the NAACP?
Negro is offensive? What about the United Negro College Fund?
This shite is too confusing. Can I just call them Caucasianally challenged?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:06 am to terd ferguson
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to BlackHelicopterPilot)
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So let me get this straight...
Colored is offensive?
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Negro is offensive?
Perhaps we haven't met
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:06 am to terd ferguson
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Can I just call them Caucasianally challenged?
They prefer melanin-rich, racist.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:06 am to terd ferguson
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Can I just call them Caucasianally challenged?
Don't make it a negative.
It is "melanin enhanced".
ETA: Upgrayedd - jinx.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:08 am to Ace Midnight
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Don't make it a negative.
It is "melanin enhanced".
ETA: Upgrayedd - jinx.
"melanin enhanced" might be better.
"Melanin-rich" might be confused with a different term that will most certainly get me in trouble.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:09 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Perhaps we haven't met
Well you are "melanin enhanced" so odds are we haven't.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:14 am to CptBengal
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Thats my point. It actually has some scientific basis, and not some bullshite PC rationale
so does the word moron, but I don't think we should use that.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:15 am to McLemore
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why would you want the commander of the armed forces (of which the army is a part) to operate under different human rights standards than those he commands? doesn't seem very progressive, but I know you don't have any real standards, so i'm pissing in the wind.
yeah dude.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:19 am to SpidermanTUba
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You can call him muthafooka!
FIFY
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:21 am to upgrayedd
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