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Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight

Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:40 am
Posted by Jack Carter
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:40 am
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/40-million-firearms-could-be-banned-overnight-due-new-atf-brace-rules

Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight Due To New ATF Brace Rules

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is set to release its final rule on Braced firearms later this month.

In Analyzing the proposed rule, which was released June 2021, it appears that ATF has intentionally designed its Factoring Criteria for Rifled Barrel Weapons with Accessories Commonly Referred to as "Stabilizing Braces" to effect a complete ban of every pistol-braced firearm currently on the market.

Masquerading as a helpful rulemaking "to assist" gun owners and the firearms industry in complying with the law, in reality the proposed rule is designed with the obvious and specific intent to largely outlaw the use of stabilizing braces on firearms, threatening millions of current owners with imprisonment and putting a large segment of the gun industry out of business entirely.

To accomplish this goal, the proposed rule creates "Worksheet 4999," which contains three sections of analysis, each more restrictive than the last, designed to ensure that virtually no stabilizing brace is eligible for use on a non-rifle firearm, and thereafter ensuring that most firearms do not qualify to even use an allowed stabilizing brace.

Even if a firearm passes the checks listed in "Worksheet 4999" ATF reserves unto itself the unbridled discretion to override the results of the worksheet at any time and for any reason, creating a system where no person or company could possibly rely on anything the agency says.

ATF in their proposed rulemaking claims that the number of Stabilizing braces in circulation is around 7-9 million. Whereas the Congressional Research Service estimates that the actual number of braces in circulation is anywhere between 10 – 40 million.

If this proposed rule becomes law, millions of gun owners could find themselves in possession of illegal, unregistered short barreled rifles or shotguns overnight.

ATF attempted once before to effectively ban pistol braces in 2020, during the Trump administration. Because of the massive grassroots response to the rule change, ATF abandoned their attempt and withdrew the rulemaking. But now that a new anti-gun regime has taken control of the White House, the ATF feels empowered to revive its war on pistol braces and essentially ban an extremely popular gun accessory
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118883 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:43 am to
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is set to release its final rule on Braced firearms later this month.


This is what they are trying to ban?

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to
Damn, well I recently lost my .22 mini gun in an unfortunate boating accident.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35069 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to
I seriously wish nothing but pain and suffering on each and every ATF agent and their immediate families.

Natural pain and suffering, of course. Like, they stub their toe every single day or some shite like that. So… not a threat or anything.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to
Look at what Trudeau/Castro is doing in Canada.

Stricter gun ownership laws in Canada per Trudeau cabinet

It's obvious that these globalists are continuously applying more pressure for control/confiscation of privately owned firearms at a global scale which means that they are uniformly and enacting these policies from a centralized origin...
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10201 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to
Shall not be infringed.

Btw.. does the Supreme Court EPA ruling make this one invalid?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71443 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:45 am to
The anti-gun groups have been getting their asses handed to them lately from what I have seen.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:46 am to
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Btw.. does the Supreme Court EPA ruling make this one invalid?


It would. They are begging to get SCOTUS’d at this point. And they probably will
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10699 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:47 am to
Im sure the south side of Chicago will be cleaned up overnight because of this "ban". Because everyone knows criminals will always follow the law
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35069 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:47 am to
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It would. They are begging to get SCOTUS’d at this point. And they probably will


Would be great if they completely destroyed the ATF in its entirety. Unconstitutional arse mother frickers and their bullshite “rules”.

frick YOU AND YOUR ARBITRARY BARREL LENGTH bullshite
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118883 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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Btw.. does the Supreme Court EPA ruling make this one invalid?



Good point.

But that's not how authoritarians work. They throw all the shite at the wall and see what sticks and it takes forever for the court system to remove the shite from the wall if at all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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This is what they are trying to ban?


Yep.

The dindus love them some ar pistols. Will end up getting them banned.

I don't see the need for one an 556. 300 blackout sure.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35069 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:49 am to
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I don't see the need for one an 556


They wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the bullshite barrel length regulations.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5817 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:50 am to
The rule will not be constitutional under the current case law.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:51 am to
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It's obvious that these globalists are continuously applying more pressure for control/confiscation of privately owned firearms at a global scale which means that they are uniformly and enacting these policies from a centralized origin...


Got to boil the frogs slowly...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:54 am to
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They wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the bullshite barrel length regulations.


true.

However the sound, flash and wasted energy leave you with a potentially less than lethal round that can be miserable to shoot indoors.

There are better options IMO.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18295 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:58 am to
Thank Dick Nixon for creating ATF. I said it more than once on this site that Republican Presidents in last 50 years have done more to hurt the 2A than any democrat.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:03 am to
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that Republican Presidents in last 50 years have done more to hurt the 2A than any democrat.


You wouldn't be wrong. Trump was more gun control than Obama.

Whats interesting is Obama's rhetoric was anti gun, yet he actually expanded rights. Trump was pro gun, and he shrank your rights.

LINK

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The CDC found that guns stop 5 to 15 times more crime than they perpetuate.

Capping Obama’s gun legacy are the two pieces of legislature that he actually signed. The first allowed guns to be carried inside national parks. The second made it legal for guns to be among checked baggage on passenger trains. You might notice that both of these laws actually expanded gun rights. Overall, Obama’s actions and successes were a far cry from what he said in speeches.

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Let’s start our review of Trump with what he did in the first year. He rescinded a presidential order that linked social security mental health records to FBI background checks. It was deemed a violation of privacy. Everything else has just been talk.

Before the recent school shooting in Florida, Trump helped the GOP push an agenda to make concealed carry licenses reciprocal across all states. That is still being discussed. Since the shooting, Trump has made public statements in favor of restricting access to guns and reforming gun control in general. His two primary proposals have been to raise the minimum age of purchase to 21 and expand federal background checks.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:10 am to
With so many millions in circulation wouldn’t this make it harder to ban? Seem to recall some kind of common use language when they tried to ban the AR-15 a while back
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 10:12 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72013 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:13 am to
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Republican Presidents in last 50 years have done more to hurt the 2A than any democrat


For all the good Reagan did, he's easily the most anti-gun president in our lifetimes.
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