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UAW president calls GM offer with 10% pay increases ‘insulting’ ahead of strike deadline

Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:14 pm
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General Motors
on Thursday offered its largest four-year wage increase in decades as part of a new contract proposal to the United Auto Workers, as the automaker attempts to avoid another costly strike by its unionized workforce.

The UAW’s president, however, called the offer “insulting.”

The wage increase for most of GM’s roughly 46,000 UAW-represented workers would be 10%, while newer, or in-progression, employees would be eligible for up to a 56% increase in wages over the four years of the deal, the company announced Thursday after meeting with union leaders and negotiators. Temporary workers, who supplement full-time employees, would also receive 20% wage increases to roughly $20 an hour.

Under the current pay structure, UAW members start at about $18 an hour and have a “grow-in” period of four years to reach a top wage of more than $32 an hour.

GM’s proposed contract also includes two additional 3% lump sum payments resulting in a total wage increase of 16%; $5,500 ratification bonus; $6,000 one-time inflation-recognition payment; and $5,000 in inflation-protection bonuses over the life of the agreement, which in-progression employees are eligible.

Despite the proposed wage increase being the largest under a UAW contract since 1999, it still falls far short of the union’s demands of 40% hourly pay increase, a reduced 32-hour work week, a shift back to traditional pensions, elimination of compensation tiers, and restoration of cost-of-living adjustments, among other items on the table.

UAW President Shawn Fain was not impressed by GM’s proposal, calling it “an insulting proposal that doesn’t come close to an equitable agreement for America’s autoworkers.”
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:18 pm to
frick unions.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:24 pm to
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it still falls far short of the union’s demands of 40% hourly pay increase, a reduced 32-hour work week


They need that extra 40% to make up for the 8 less hours of work they want employees to be paid for.

UAW is going to cost their members $$$ in the defense of a short work week, dont know how many people will like only getting paid 80% of what they were
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:24 pm to
Why not shoot for the moon.

Bernie is chirping in their ear about that 32 hour work week.
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:24 pm to
Nothing more than communism destroying capitalism. We had a good run.
Posted by Macfly
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:25 pm to
No matter what settlement is reached, there will be real and imagined costs passed onto the consumer. The unions are adding to the down-turned economy.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:26 pm to
Problem for UAW is that their numbers are insane. Looks like most of their employees end up at about $60k/yr within four years - not too bad. I'm assuming this is considered unskilled work that requires OJT and not specialized training prior to getting to GM.

The large increases coupled to huge price increases for vehicles and a bad economy do not make for a good combination. And then wanting a 32hr work week is crazy. That will just drive up car prices even more. They are asking to work 20% less and make 20% more.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:26 pm to
I just saw earlier that some dems want striking workers to get unemployment too.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:27 pm to
Japanese, Korean and German automakers rejoice.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:27 pm to
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frick unions.


in the face.

Enjoy your $200K pickups
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:30 pm to
The UAW president is looking at the UPS contract, looking at airline pilots getting 30-40% pay hikes, warehouses workers getting 20-30% pay increases, fast food workers getting 30-40% pay increases. The UAW is looking at record profits in the automaker biz and they're wanting theirs. Who could have predicted +25% inflation over the past 2 years would result in the working class wanting double digit raises.
Posted by White Flash
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:30 pm to
i hope this is an opportunity for non union workers to fill up these spots in the detroit auto industry. would be so good for the country if the uaw burned. there was a time when unions actually fought for fairness, that time is long since passed. now it's just union leadership looking for the next round of pork.
Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:32 pm to
Explain to me why I should be pay tariff money to protect jobs like these?
Posted by KCSilverTiger
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:33 pm to
I have no experience with unions, but I always wonder why companies allow employees to go on strike. Why couldn't they just take that to mean they quit their job and go hire new people?
Posted by Dex Morgan
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:38 pm to
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I have no experience with unions, but I always wonder why companies allow employees to go on strike. Why couldn't they just take that to mean they quit their job and go hire new people?



They can bring in replacement workers immediately. And they can make them permanent replacement after a certain amount of time. That's what Northwest Airlines did when their mechanics went on strike in 2006.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:43 pm to
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They need that extra 40% to make up for the 8 less hours of work they want employees to be paid for. UAW is going to cost their members $$$ in the defense of a short work week, dont know how many people will like only getting paid 80% of what they were


Shorter work week means more have to be hired to maintain production quotas. UAW gets more dues as a result. UAW and its lazy workers benefit at the expense of the consumers.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:43 pm to
It is still incredibly disruptive regardless of the skill level.
Posted by NytroBud
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:43 pm to
These workers about to be out of a job until after Christmas. No one is buying 85,000 pickups. GM and Ford will just wait them out
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Under the current pay structure, UAW members start at about $18 an hour and have a “grow-in” period of four years to reach a top wage of more than $32 an hour.


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UAW President Shawn Fain was not impressed by GM’s proposal, calling it “an insulting proposal that doesn’t come close to an equitable agreement for America’s autoworkers.”


More than doubling your pay in four years (without including OT) isn't good enough? WTF?

In a standard work year (2,080 work hours) that's going from $37,440 to $66,560 in just four years.

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The wage increase for most of GM’s roughly 46,000 UAW-represented workers would be 10%, while newer, or in-progression, employees would be eligible for up to a 56% increase in wages over the four years of the deal, the company announced Thursday after meeting with union leaders and negotiators. Temporary workers, who supplement full-time employees, would also receive 20% wage increases to roughly $20 an hour.


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GM’s proposed contract also includes two additional 3% lump sum payments resulting in a total wage increase of 16%; $5,500 ratification bonus; $6,000 one-time inflation-recognition payment; and $5,000 in inflation-protection bonuses over the life of the agreement, which in-progression employees are eligible.


And that's not good enough? The UAW needs to look at the economy and realize car sales are already ~1M-1.5M per month below pre-COVID numbers and are likely to slump due to overpriced current inventory, high interest rates and a rising glut of used vehicles. Pushing for that much more right now may well end up causing a lot of GM's UAW employees to be pushed out the door as business tightens up.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:29 pm to

The car companies need to tell Biden to back off the green mandates including CAFE standards and emissions fleet goals that are going to cost them billions and in return they will raise wages.
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