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Turkey threatens to shut down Incirlik and ground our planes

Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:33 am
Because we apparently won't provide support for them in Syria...although they have their own F-16s that are more than capable for that role.

LINK

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38783 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:36 am to
good with me shut it down, and lets get out of the middle east
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:41 am to
quote:

lets get out of the middle east
and let Putin bulldoze that sand box
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:42 am to
When does the press stop calling Turkey a "key US ally in the region"?
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:42 am to
Eight years of Obama, give the man another Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

U.S. Air Force Col. John Dorrian said Wednesday than any actions by Turkey to shut down or limit U.S. air operations out of Incirlik would be disastrous for the U.S. anti-ISIS campaign now focused in Syria on the drive by a mixed Syrian Kurdish and Arab force against Raqqa, the self-proclaimed ISIS capital.

"It's absolutely invaluable," Dorrian, a spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve, said of Incirlik. "Really, the entire world has been made safer by the operations that have been conducted there."


two things:

1. Turkey should have shut that shite down when we invaded Iraq. they didn't have the balls then, they won't do it now

2. It's clear from the article that Turkey provides more tangible benefit to the US in the last 15 years than Israel has in its lifetime.


PS Muslim countries never help us.

PPS Downvotes now being accepted at the bottom of the page.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

When does the press stop calling Turkey a "key US ally in the region"


When they finally kick us off the airfields we've been using to fight wars for 15 years?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:51 am to
The quote you posted should never have been said by Dorrian. By saying that its absolutely invaluable gives Turkey ALL of the cards.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:54 am to
quote:

The quote you posted should never have been said by Dorrian. By saying that its absolutely invaluable gives Turkey ALL of the cards.


Meh, he is probably trying to get air support for the Turks, who we have fought tooth and nail to control, and who at our request are working with YPG kurds to fight in ISIL controlled areas.

Turks won't do shite, they are just making noise. At most they will just be petty and put some restrictions on our air ops at the airbase. If you recall, the Turks were adamantly opposed to our invasion of Iraq, and denied use of their airspace initially, one of our first missions (Ugly Baby) into Iraq had to go the long way around because of that.

quote:

ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkey agreed to open its airspace to U.S. warplanes but defied Washington by voting to send its troops into northern Iraq -- a move that White House officials fear could trigger a standoff with U.S. forces and complicate the war effort.

The granting of overflight rights by Turkey's parliament came just hours after the U.S. launched its first missile strikes against Baghdad. But it fell far short of the Bush administration's original plan to use Turkey as a launchpad for a massive tank-led invasion of northern Iraq.

The government-backed motion on airspace rights, which garnered 332 votes with 202 against and one abstention, allows U.S. planes to fly over Turkey to attack targets in Iraq -- although they won't be able to use Turkish air bases or refuel in Turkey.


quote:

Originally, the task force planned to infiltrate northern Iraq via Turkey. However, Turkey didn't grant permission for an invasion of Iraq from its soil or over its airspace. Coalition commanders instead undertook a complicated and roundabout infiltration via Jordanian airspace beginning the evening of 20 March 2003. This operation was known as "Ugly Baby". The "Ugly Baby" operation was the longest infiltration mission since World War II and the longest MC-130 Combat Talon infiltration in history.[5]


Ugly Baby wiki

They blinked first, as usual. Usually when Muslim countries don't blink, we invade them.

ps I didn't downvote you.



This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:58 am to
I'll be the first downvote. Piss on Turkey.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:03 am to
quote:

'll be the first downvote




quote:

Piss on Turkey.


Yep. Not sure where you think I somehow support the government of Turkey... just pointing out facts. Unless of course you think the Colonel is lying here...
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Turkey provides more tangible benefit to the US in the last 15 years than Israel has in its lifetime.


Not a fan of the Erdogan government, but this is historically true and it isn't close.

The same could probably be said of a well-organized rookery of Emperor Penguins, thogh.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:18 am to
NT where you been brother? Welcome back!
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:19 am to
Does this mean I never have to deploy to Turkey again??
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:22 am to
quote:

NT where you been brother? Welcome back!


Banned up until a few days ago. Thanks!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Banned up until a few days ago. Thanks!
Well happy New Year and welcome back from purgatory ya filthy animal!

Did you have a meltdown election night?
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Not a fan of the Erdogan government, but this is historically true and it isn't close.

The same could probably be said of a well-organized rookery of Emperor Penguins, thogh.






Damn straight.

I don't like Erdogan either.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:24 am to
You too.

ETA. No. Went to a party at the Cornell Club and left early when the women started misting up. I took it with a shrug. Election was a joke. I was more hopeful about the prospects of the next four years the day after than I am since he re-discovered his twitter and decided a war with the IC would lay the groundwork for a successful presidency.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Turkey threatens

But I don't think they'll actually do it
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:27 am to
This is more of a generic comment, not specific to this exact situation:

I hope that all these shite countries that rely on us for financial and military support get told to eat a dick over the next 4 years.

Don't take our money, our soldiers, our firepower and our technology, and then talk shite.

frick Turkey, Israel or any other country that wants to be frenemies.
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