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re: Trumps next target - net neutrality say Admin officials

Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Net neutrality's a farce, it's a bunch of damn lobbyists from Google, Yahoo, AT+T, Verizon, etc. fighting over open and free access to the internet

Wasting your time. They don't understand how business works

They only want their Interwebz for free. But will bitch about someone getting an Obamaphone
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:48 pm to
For free? Where do I sign up for that?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43386 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:49 pm to
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For free? Where do I sign up for that?


You're not the right demographic.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:53 pm to
It's no secret that he wants to go after net neutrality, just look at who he's appointed to FCC chair. This is bad news for everyone
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:54 pm to
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For free? Where do I sign up for that?

You don't, but Youtube, Hulu, iTunes, Netflix etc want to charge you for them using up a huge portion of the bandwidth, and then not paying for it

You pay them, and you pay your ISP
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Netflix using 32.25% of the total web bandwidth of North American home users nightly, followed by BitTorrent, YouTube streaming, music sites and porn.

With more streaming services that provide movies or music as content emerging every day, one can see that the pipeline is being hogged by certain businesses, while others deal with what space is left.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:19 pm to
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ISps are like any other business , they will provide what their customers want, without a government mandate that they do so.



They have an effective monopoly.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:24 pm to
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ISps are like any other business , they will provide what their customers want, without a government mandate that they do so.





It never fails to see Republicans attacking net neutrality are constantly ignoring that ISPs have a government mandated monopoly thanks to feds and state level politicians.

You literally have state governments banning local municipalities from starting their own broadband services after getting nice fat checks from big telecoms.

We need net neutrality and if Trump is dumb enough to go after it, he deserves all the backlash he gets from it. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:31 pm to
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You literally have state governments banning local municipalities

I live in a small town, and I have access to 4 different ISPs. 5 if you include my work
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29220 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 4:42 pm to
This will stifle innovation by providing unnecessary barriers to entry for internet startups. if it's not broke don't fix it, and certainly don't have the government fix it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98319 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 5:04 pm to
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I live in a small town, and I have access to 4 different ISPs. 5 if you include my work


I live in a small town and I have access to two ISP's, both of which provide identical, overpriced, shitty service.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:07 pm to
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I live in a small town and I have access to two ISP's, both of which provide identical, overpriced, shitty service.

But, with ISPs being able to sell ads, and bill the data hogs, you might see more ISPs enter the market?

I remember when Ma Bell was the only phone service in town. The govt was forced to break them apart. Now look. Get the govt out of the business of choosing winners and losers
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82162 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 6:29 pm to
Isn't Rand Paul also against net neutrality?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:42 pm to
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ISps are like any other business , they will provide what their customers want, without a government mandate that they do so.


They are like any other monopoly
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:49 pm to
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You don't, but Youtube, Hulu, iTunes, Netflix etc want to charge you for them using up a huge portion of the bandwidth, and then not paying for it

You pay them, and you pay your ISP


They pay their ISP too. And content providers should be protected at the expense of the gatekeeper.

And can we stop pretending that there is some bandwidth shortage? It's not even feasible
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43386 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:58 pm to
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And can we stop pretending that there is some bandwidth shortage? It's not even feasible


Are you a network engineer for a major ISP?

Unless you are, you have zero qualifications for making this statement.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:19 am to
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Are you a network engineer for a major ISP?

Unless you are, you have zero qualifications for making this statement.


lots of people on here want to talk about climate science.. are they climate scientists?

no? lmao
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125444 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:31 am to
Setting the internet back big time in America.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125444 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:34 am to
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Trump is headed back to the free market


Net neutrality helps creates a free market

Once again you prove you know nothing about the internet
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125444 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:37 am to
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ISps are like any other business , they will provide what their customers want, without a government mandate that they do so.


When did customers ask for data caps?

Slow speeds?

And terrible pricing?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15050 posts
Posted on 4/1/17 at 1:00 pm to
If you touch the internet oh yest it will.
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