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Trump will continue to win as long as the left stays far left.

Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2867 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:59 pm
Why they haven't seen this and attempted to move back center is the real question here.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:03 pm to
Because Soros is paying all the looneys to protest in the streets, and the Left think that that is their base....
Posted by pressurized
Member since Aug 2013
590 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:04 pm to
Let them double down on stupid. As Napoleon once said, never interupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:05 pm to
The far left gets dramatically disproportionate coverage. It's a small sliver of the left but the corporate media covers it like it's this huge group in order to protect the right in its quest to further loosen the already fragile structure that exists to thwart crony capitalism
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Why they haven't seen this and attempted to move back center is the real question here.


Your argument convinced the Dem office holders, who have votes in the convention called super delegates, mostly voted for Mrs Clinton.

You were wrong. They were wrong.

He would have won. The AA's were the difference for MRs C. They would not have voted for Trump any more than they did and with all the time of the election cycle, most of them would have learned that Sanders was on their side from day one.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78349 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

The far left gets dramatically disproportionate coverage. It's a small sliver of the left but the corporate media covers it like it's this huge group in order to protect the right in its quest to further loosen the already fragile structure that exists to thwart crony capitalism




Meanwhile Keith Ellison is about to take control of the Democratic Party, Senator Hunts At Whole Foods is having her mic cut because she can't stop melting, and I can't turn on my tv without seeing an elected Democrat using the term "Hitler" in every second sentence.

You guys stick with the SJW theatre and we'll govern. Next stop for this train, SCOTUS control for the next thirty years.
All aboard.

Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24769 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:18 pm to
the Left has abandoned the Democrats. Trump stole them. Just ask Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:47 pm to
It seems like the democrats strategy to win voters is shame and fear. Shame them by labeling them racist, bigots, Nazis, or whatever the -ist of the day is. If that doesn't work, make the voters fearful by trying to paint Trump as dangerous or incompetent.

This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22188 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:48 pm to
Is there anyone in America that defines themself as far left? They all truly believe that they are moderates.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78349 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:55 pm to
"We aren't Left. We are just Revolutionary Marxists who hate Americans principles, ideals, traditions and Institutions and think you are all racist,sexist, homo-phobes who deserve to die.What's not mainstream about that. 46 States next time."
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Why they haven't seen this and attempted to move back center is the real question here.


Because the left is only about feelings now. Not logic. Not common sense. Not about this country.

You know what the left is staring down at this point? 24 years of Trump, Pence, and Cruz.

Prayers sent libtards!!!
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:04 am to
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The far left gets dramatically disproportionate coverage. It's a small sliver of the left but the corporate media covers it like it's this huge group in order to protect the right in its quest to further loosen the already fragile structure that exists to thwart crony capitalism


" . . . in order to protect the right in its quest to further loosen the already fragile structure that exists to thwart crony capitalism" ?

This is seriously incoherent babble. You might as well tag the following phrase for your ending:

" and to prevent the Fascist infiltration and contamination of our Precious Bodily Fluids"



If you expound on your thoughts it might clarify your point a bit.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 12:05 am
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:27 am to
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Trump will continue to win as long as the left stays far left.



I find it interesting that there's this notion that the left somehow lost out huge in this election. Was it a surprise? Yes. Was it the worse loss by a dem to a Republican in recent history? No. Not at all. The senate changing isn't too surprising either, if you were paying attention. These changes are somewhat typical/cyclical in nature if you look at two term presidents from either party in recent history.

I won't blindly say the party is fine and dandy but the fact people think that it has to make drastic changes to ever win again is looking through a filtered lens. These people are the same as the ones who kept screaming that the Republican party was dead.

I just find it odd that people have this perception that everything is in shambles. Ultimately they just picked the worst candidate possible and underestimated their competition.

Overall, this was one of the worst election years in recent history. I can't remember the last time so few policies were discussed during the whole election year/cycle.

I would be curious to see why it is perceived the dems are completely broken and must make drastic reform to fix the party. They do need a purge of the party's higher powers, no doubt.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 12:30 am
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78349 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:33 am to
Except this defies cyclical models. The dems are at their lowest point since the 1920s. They have lost 1100 nationwide seats since 2008. They are likely to lose several more senate seats in 2018 and trump is likely to appoint scotus judges that will control the court for thirty years.
Posted by Wild Thang
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Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:36 am to
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I would be curious to see why it is perceived the dems are completely broken and must make drastic reform to fix the party. They do need a purge of the party's higher powers, no doubt


Have you seen the gains the right has made the last 8 years?

Have you seen the last 2 DNC chairs embarrassed themselves?

Have you seen the leader of the left is Warren?

Have you seen who the left aligns with now?

Dude, you need me to go on?
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 12:37 am
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:44 am to
quote:

Except this defies cyclical models


Not really though. See this Politfact article about it

quote:

The GOP’s national and local resurgence under the Democratic-controlled White House is not surprising, in part, because of the historical trend for two-term presidencies. Political analysts say it’s a sure thing that a political party prospers when it wins the White House but loses its influence across the country soon after. Remember that before the 2010 and 2012 elections, Democrats made positive gains in the 2006 and 2008 elections, said Larry Sabato, a political expert at the University of Virginia Center for Politics.

"You have a pretty consistent pattern of surge and decline, and you can trace it throughout the two-party era in American politics," Sabato said.


quote:

The Democrats’ "presidential penalty" is rougher than usual for a few reasons, Sabato explains.

First, voters in midterm elections tend to be older and whiter, thus more conservative. Groups that are overwhelmingly Democratic, such as young people and minorities, are more likely to turn out in stronger numbers for presidential elections.

Also, Democratic losses in 2010 could not have come at a worse time given redistricting across the country. With more Republicans in control of statehouses, they have authority over the lines that delineate seats for U.S. Senate, House and legislative races. "There is a heavy amount of gerrymandering," Sabato said.

Finally, voters and candidates are moving away from centrist voting habits that dominated the 1970s through ‘90s, when voters would deviate from party lines after making their presidential pick. In recent years, Sabato said, "more and more people will stay in the same column from the White House to the courthouse, voting for either Democrats or Republicans."


It's interesting to think about (to me). How much of a correction is truly needed. If they made a huge correction to the right would that help or hurt them more? Some centering is not a bad idea, but drastic reform doesn't seem needed (to me). Is it their ideals that hurt them, or just a matter of typical trends aligned with the recent events depicted in the above quote?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:49 am to
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Have you seen who the left aligns with now?


What do you mean by align with? What person or persons are you referring to.

Let's not forget the popular vote was still won by dems and the loss wasn't any type of historical Victory (in terms of votes) for republicans.

quote:

Dude, you need me to go on?


If you could expound upon the points you made that would help me understand better what you're saying.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 12:54 am to
They're in denial. You can't fix a problem until you embrace it, and as far as they see, they don't have a problem, well maybe the Ruskis
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8059 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:41 am to
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The AA's were the difference for MRs C.

Ironic, then, that AA's seem the most upset by Trump's election.

The whole concept of a "white-lash" is suitably hilarious when you consider Van Jones and his merry band of race-baiting shills overwhelming advocated against Sanders (who'd be president right now) and towards Clinton.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:52 am to
Sometimes i wonder if this is the first time you guys have supported a winning candidate.
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