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re: Trump reforming food stamps, 700k less will get benefits
Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:54 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:54 am to DavidTheGnome
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helping to feed the poor wouldn’t be my first choice to put the scalpel
Nobody has a problem with money going to feed the poor. That's what it's set up to do.
Everyone has a problem feeding the lazy. There's a huge difference.
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:56 am to upgrayedd
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Pretty crazy how we've progressed to the point where being morbidly obese is generally a sign of being poor.
See? Capitalism is a failed system
Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:59 am to SoulGlo
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See? Capitalism is a failed system
Exactly
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
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When you get to the pearly gates I wonder how this will look when people were hungry and you celebrated the idea of not helping.
Nor does He celebrate sloth.
This move is aimed at able body folks that are able to work. You know, the "God helps those that help themselves" crowd.
If you do not understand the difference, I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:01 pm to PaperTiger
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Everyone has a problem feeding the lazy. There's a huge difference.
Yep tell the good lord you didn’t help because they were lazy. I’ve no doubt there are freeloaders and those abusing the system but for the most part people don’t chose to be poor. Instead of trying to judge them I’d prefer to err on the side of lending a helping hand.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:02 pm to PaperTiger
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Nobody has a problem with money going to feed the poor. That's what it's set up to do.
Correct
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Everyone has a problem feeding the lazy. There's a huge difference.
I don't care for that part, but it's inherent in any charitable program.
The part that pisses me off, is the amounts of money that is taken by already filthy rich people, to administer the programs.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’d prefer to err on the side of lending a helping hand.
And I'd prefer to lend a helping hand when and where I wish, not having you or someone else use the government to tell me when and how.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
These people have created generational lifestyles based on welfare. What's better? Keeping these people in poverty for 3 generations by giving them free stuff or forcing them out of poverty by denying them resources they can attain on their own?
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:05 pm to DavidTheGnome
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misfortune never befalls you or your family to where you need food stamps
Thank you for making our point. The word of the day is need.
An able bodied human with no dependents does not need assistance to put food on the table.
Nobody with need will be denied.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:07 pm to Lsujacket66
Good. Now maybe some of them will actually have to pay for their "cold drinks" and pig lips.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:08 pm to fjlee90
This is the typical "I'm more moral than you because I don't believe in telling people no" routine.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:12 pm to roadGator
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Our poor are fat and have cell phones and rent rims for their cars. It’s amazing. Hey progs, tell me about food deserts.
I will say this looks pretty common sense to me, and I’m on the left side of moderate. Though I do believe there are healthy food deserts, I don’t see how food stamps combat that anyway. If you are healthy and don’t have dependents, then I fail to see why you shouldn’t be working. I also thought the article made a good point in that people are saying this kicks 700k off, but that number is rather meaningless in a vacuum as the goal of the program is not, regardless of what some may say, to increase enrollment.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:17 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Yep tell the good lord you didn’t help because they were lazy. I’ve no doubt there are freeloaders and those abusing the system but for the most part people don’t chose to be poor. Instead of trying to judge them I’d prefer to err on the side of lending a helping hand.
David, I generally agree about erring on the side of too much generosity rather than not enough. At the same time, don’t you agree there is value in incentivizing healthy people to work. I’m not one calling anyone poor or lazy, but I do believe pushing people to work is important.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:19 pm to SCLibertarian
While i'm not a huge fan of food stamps one of reasons that people on them are fat is because the cheapest food is the most unhealthy crap you can put in your mouth. It isn't food and it has huge doses of MSG in it so you must feed your mouth more to feel full. If there was a way to use a sliding scale on fresh food versus doritos maybe there would be more people that could get off their arse, not have the diabeetus, be disabled, and less heart attacks, and also get out of the damn motorized grocery carts and go to work.
Don't forget those motorized carts are also subsidized by medicaid. If we gonna help the poors it needs to be with healthy food. Not doritos made out of shite imported from china. If the gubment gonna subsidize farmers make it for something for people to eat and not something to turn into ethanol.
Don't forget those motorized carts are also subsidized by medicaid. If we gonna help the poors it needs to be with healthy food. Not doritos made out of shite imported from china. If the gubment gonna subsidize farmers make it for something for people to eat and not something to turn into ethanol.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
I wont have to answer for lazy people. They will have to answer for themselves. You ever heard of Sloth? If not read up on it.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:27 pm to fjlee90
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The word of the day is need.
Honestly, if you are in possession of a food stamp card, either you are gaming the system, or you suck at life.
Except for those who are disabled in some way.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:30 pm to DavidTheGnome
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but for the most part people don’t chose to be poor
Nobody has a problem with this for the most part. There is a difference between poor and lazy. Not unless you are judging and assuming that poor people are lazy. And if so thats on you because I clearly defined there was a difference.
Honestly, Im tired of getting applications for people that dont want to work. All they are doing is trying to fulfill the requirement of "looking for a job".
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:34 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Honestly, if you are in possession of a food stamp card, either you are gaming the system, or you suck at life.
Except for those who are disabled in some way.
I don't necessarily disagree, but there are people who fall on hard times. If those people have a family and need support, that's the purpose of the program.
Able bodied and unemployed folks with no dependents can volunteer until they have a job. If they can't do that minimum amount of volunteering, they do not deserve the help.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:35 pm to DavidTheGnome
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DavidTheGnome
You are one of the most naïve posters on this board.
You must live in a remote location and never have had to interact with food stamp users.
I have seen young men using a food stamp card and then climb into a 50k pickup in the parking lot.
Obama , three months into office lessened the restrictions on food stamps and rewarded people for not working.
He waived the restrictions on able bodied people with no dependents.
The old rule said they could only get the freebies for three months , then had to get a job working a minimum of 20 hours a week to stay eligible.
He waved the rule , which meant they could stay on food stamps forever.
Trump doing this doesn't take the freebies away from seniors , disabled people or people with children.
Get your head out of your arse.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:35 pm to fjlee90
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but there are people who fall on hard times. If those people have a family and need support, that's the purpose of the program.
Agree, but for many, it's a lifestyle.
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