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Trump crumbled before your eyes
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:01 pm
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wiki dissembling
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People who care about facts and the nation’s trust in core institutions must for the umpteenth time insist that President Trump, who has accused his predecessor of abusing his power and compromising the integrity the intelligence services, retract his statements.
In a depressingly partisan House Intelligence Committee session to probe Russian interference in the 2016 elections, the questions members of Congress put to FBI Director Jim Comey and NSA Director Adm. Mike Rogers corresponded completely to representatives’ party affiliations.
In tone set by Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Republicans asked not at all about the substance of contacts or potential collusion between Donald Trump’s presidential campaign apparatus and Kremlin officials.
Their singular obsession was who in the government may have told the press about questionable behavior, including about former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn’s multiple contacts with the Russian ambassador on the day President Obama punished Russian President Vladimir Putin’s government for its hacking of Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee emails.
Republicans appeared unperturbed that those unauthorized disclosures exposed potentially illegal conduct. Their scrutiny was aimed solely at whomever revealed the vital information — revelations without which Flynn would still sitting at the heart of power, guiding the President on matters of war and peace.
Democrats, far more responsibly, acknowledged the seriousness of the leaks — which are, in fact, criminal — but moved on to the substance of Russia’s meddling.
There, they learned that there is, in fact, an ongoing FBI probe into links and potential collusion between Trump campaign officials and Russia. It has been underway, amazingly, since last July.
But it was in questions aimed at Comey and Rogers that the trustworthiness of the President of United States evaporated before the nation’s eyes.
Is there any information, a congressman asked Comey, to support Trump’s claims that Obama ordered intelligence and law enforcement agencies to wiretap him, as Trump has tweeted multiple times?
Comey’s answer: There is “no information” at the FBI, or at the Department of Justice, to support that claim.
Would Rogers agree with the British characterization that the notion their spy agency wiretapped Trump on Obama’s behalf, an allegation made by a Fox News commentator and repeated from the White House podium, was “nonsense” and “utterly ridiculous”?
Rogers’ answer: “Yes, sir.”
He then elaborated on the broader allegation that the U.S. government may have wiretapped Trump: “I’ve seen nothing on the NSA side that we engaged in any such activity, nor that anyone ever asked us to engage in such activity.”
The American people should be deeply disturbed by either of two inescapable conclusions: Their President is content to live in an alternate reality in which any and all news that challenges him is “fake” — including any evidence that illuminates ties between his close associates and a foreign adversary — or their President is willfully dissembling to keep those ties out of the public view.
wiki dissembling
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Lie - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissembling
Misleading and dissembling. A misleading statement is one ...
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:02 pm to CelticDog
It feels like the whole credibility of this nation is crumbling before the world's eyes.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:02 pm to CelticDog
Jeez. I thought the melt would've peaked by now.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm to CelticDog
How many people do you think you are winning over per day? You are in the top three of simple look at me posters from your side on this site.
You start threads with no intent of discussion. Troll.
You start threads with no intent of discussion. Troll.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm to CelticDog
Trumpkins reply.... (trust me, I'm clairvoyant.)
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm to Toddy
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It feels like the whole credibility of this nation is crumbling before the world's eyes.
No shite, it's been a long 8 years.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm to CelticDog
Hahahaha. Daily news opinion piece - real shocker
This also is not done yet
This also is not done yet
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:04 pm to Toddy
Dude, how can you not see the connection between your rampant partisanship and your hatred of trump?
You think you are being objective?
You think you are being objective?
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:04 pm to roadGator
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How many people do you think you are winning over per day?
Nobody is winning anyone over here. This board is politics as sport.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:05 pm to northshorebamaman
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Nobody is winning anyone over here. This board is politics as sport.
True.
However, I call FSU fans trolling Clemson or UF boards insane trolls too.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:05 pm to CelticDog
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Would Rogers agree with the British characterization that the notion their spy agency wiretapped Trump on Obama’s behalf, an allegation made by a Fox News commentator and repeated from the White House podium, was “nonsense” and “utterly ridiculous
Well, that's not an accurate characterization of the allegation.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:06 pm to Toddy
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feels like the whole credibility of this nation is crumbling before the world's eyes.
It's been a downward slope since midway through the Clinton presidency.
The inflection point was Clinton getting elected.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:07 pm to roadGator
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You start threads with no intent of discussion. Troll.
I have a job. I am leaving in 40 minutes. I am going to make a salad before I go.
I will check on you in a few hours.
Discuss how the GOP only wanted to talk about the messenger and the Dems focused on the message
I do discuss with people who actually post sane work. I don't bother with morons who name call and have no real input besides Too Long or that was from media I don't like, so its fake.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:07 pm to CelticDog
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the Dems focused on the message
More hack bullshite.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:08 pm to Toddy
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It feels like the whole credibility of this nation is crumbling before the world's eyes.
I'm slightly less cynical. It's only Trump's credibility which has always been questionable at best.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:09 pm to Toddy
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It feels like the whole credibility of this nation is crumbling before the world's eyes.
So, now you want to act like your party has any shred of character? What about Benghazi or Fast and Furious?
Go suck an AIDS dick.
Better yet, suck 3
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:09 pm to CelticDog
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Is there any information, a congressman asked Comey, to support Trump’s claims that Obama ordered intelligence and law enforcement agencies to wiretap him, as Trump has tweeted multiple times
Why would there be evidence of a conversation between Jarrett and Obama ? (There wouldn't be). But if the doj was involved in any of this surveillance, you'd have to be a moron to assume Obama wasn't involved.
If this came solely from the FBI, with no communication or participation with the doj, there's a chance Obama wasn't involved. But if jarretts doj was involved, Obama is as well.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:09 pm to CelticDog
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People who care about facts
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The American people should be
I'm going to roll my eyes at any article that has those two phrases in it.
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