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re: Trump Approval 45% - Crop Rot is REAL!!!

Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:50 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:50 am to
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Fortunately, conservatives don't need a majority.
You're right, and I was thinking about starting a thread about demographics and geographic population trends.

While liberals from the north, likely retirees move south, the south gets a little more D leaning, but gains in population (thus more EC and congressional representation).

The paradox is that while the south gets more blue, and the north probably gets even more blue because the older people who move are probably a little less liberal than those who stay, the changes in the south aren't dramatic enough to flip states so the gains in representation only makes the EC favor Rs more.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:50 am to
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A week ago, the left was touting Rasmussen and using it to troll. Now they are dismissing it

Hypocrite libs. Water is wet.



Can you meet in the middle and admit both sides do this stuff? Without saying one side does it more than the other?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:51 am to
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I was thinking about starting a thread about demographics and geographic population trends


Please do. I'd be interested to read more on that.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:51 am to
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Can you meet in the middle and admit both sides do this stuff? Without saying one side does it more than the other?




Well y'all have the entire MSM on your side so it's kinda obvious one side does it more
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:52 am to
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The paradox is that while the south gets more blue, and the north probably gets even more blue because the older people who move are probably a little less liberal than those who stay, the changes in the south aren't dramatic enough to flip states so the gains in representation only makes the EC favor Rs more.


Well. That and winning places like California by multiple millions doesn't change the EC at all.

And, winning congressional districts with 90% of the vote still only results in 1 congressman per district.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:55 am to
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No, a smart person would realize Rasmussen just isn't quite as slanted.

Except we have actual election results that suggest it's traditionally R leaning, so it would be hard enough to me a case that it's not R leaning, but illogical to make a case that it's actually D leaning, let alone a 5+ point lean.

In other words, the criticisms you are making about the left are fair in general, but you're taking a stance that is an even better example of what you're criticizing.
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:55 am to
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People that voted for him were getting a little unsettled because the was getting too close to the GOPe. 


This
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:03 am to
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Well. That and winning places like California by multiple millions doesn't change the EC at all.
Yeah, but the partisan makeup had always been there on both sides. It's just that the partisan northeast is not as much of the population as it once was.

Personally, I wish the EC was comprised of congressional district winners, and winner take all for the 2 "senate seat" statewide votes. That way it maintains the fundamental purpose of the EC, but minimizes the disproportionate value of votes in swing states v. partisan states.

But then again, this would be most ideal if congressional districts were drawn logically and objectively, based on a formula that tries to minimize geographic and population disparities, rather than subjectively drawn districts trying to manipulate partisan and demographic characteristics.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:04 am to
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Dem polls doe
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:06 am to
And since Trump is so polarizing; I doubt many people called give the straight answer.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:06 am to
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Well y'all have the entire MSM on your side so it's kinda obvious one side does it more



What ab fox?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:08 am to
Polls don't mean shite but still fun to see libs sneer about ones they don't like

If we could harness the power of the knee jerking we could put a dent in global warming
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57216 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:09 am to
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Dem polls doe
Reminiscent of the BCS system.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:13 am to
No one cares about the polls until they support their narrative or bias.
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