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re: Trump & plans for the Mexican drug cartels

Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:40 pm to
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Most everyone else said it was insane.


I remember. Most everyone is correct in saying it is insane, because it is. You attack the cartels directly we will lose a bunch of service members (acting as the world’s police), 1000s of innocents will die, and then we get the reprisal attacks here. The cartels are active everywhere so where does it end?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20440 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:42 pm to
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The POTUS unilaterally ordering the execution of foreign nationals on foreign soil is a terrible idea and would be a war crime. But hey, the last clown that did this (Obama) got the Nobel Peace Prize for doing it!
Its the cartel you fukcing moron.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47979 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:43 pm to
They’ve invaded our country. I have no problem doing whatever it takes to destroy their entire operation from production to personnel. Get rid of em all.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:44 pm to
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Isn't one of Trump's positives supposed to be that he wouldn't embroil us in various foreign bullshite?


If you have not noticed this bullshite is happening on US soil? The cartels have a fricking mountain and passes in New Mexico that they control.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2793 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Drug Cartels


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34327 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Its the cartel


True.

Obama killed a U.S. citizen.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:54 pm to
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This is not about cocaine and weed


I understand that and never implied otherwise.

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this is more about destroying fentanyl which is thousands of time more deadly


I get that is what’s being used to justify this. But it’s a horrible idea. I empathize with anyone that has lost someone to an overdose. But we need to look closely at ourselves here. Why do so many turn to drugs knowing that fentanyl laced products are out there? They know an OD is possible but they still partake. Our society is sick and getting rid of a cartel won’t fix that. Another one will spring up in its place as long as there is money to be made.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7964 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:03 pm to
Everybody look, Figgy on the internet knows more about the inner workings of Mexican drug cartels than someone who was President of the United States for 4 years
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10330 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:12 pm to
If you recall, MAGA was going to get around the “war crime” aspect by declaring the cartels a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.

This enables the use of deadly preemptive force ie Al queda and ISIS.


The Mexican govt apparently pushed back on this designation because they didn’t want the optics of the US military operating inside its borders.

Trump didn’t go through with it. But in return Mexico stopped the flow of illegals coming up from their southern border and they also stopped the flow at their northern border.

Perhaps if MAGA gets in he tells Mexico to Frick off and goes HAM on the cartels this time.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:14 pm to
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I get that is what’s being used to justify this. But it’s a horrible idea. I empathize with anyone that has lost someone to an overdose. But we need to look closely at ourselves here. Why do so many turn to drugs knowing that fentanyl laced products are out there? They know an OD is possible but they still partake. Our society is sick and getting rid of a cartel won’t fix that. Another one will spring up in its place as long as there is money to be made.


When you kill one and another shows up. You kill it too. Eventually they quit “springing up”. Trust the common sense and it will set you free.

Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:21 pm to
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When you kill one and another shows up. You kill it too. Eventually they quit “springing up”. Trust the common sense and it will set you free.


no just no. You'll have a refugee crisis the likes of which we've never seen and it will actually have standing. The refugees will be able to come here and stay here legally while this shadow war is conducted, which will go on forever. Congrats on your common sense. If you think the illegals are expensive now just wait.

How much are you planning on spending on this War on Drugs?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:28 pm to
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no just no. You'll have a refugee crisis the likes of which we've never seen and it will actually have standing. The refugees will be able to come here and stay here legally while this shadow war is conducted, which will go on forever. Congrats on your common sense. If you think the illegals are expensive now just wait. How much are you planning on spending on this War on Drugs?



Are you on crack? It will cost very little to take the cartels down. You are suggesting that we say “oh well they are here to stay” so let’s start a don’t do drugs campaign and teach our public. You are part of the problem. The majority that uses common sense will be the cure.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13283 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:29 pm to
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I love the man but it seems like a clear opportunity for the Dems to attempt an assassination and blame it on the cartels in retaliation.


This maybe Iran angle though.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24775 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:38 pm to
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The POTUS unilaterally ordering the execution of foreign nationals on foreign soil is a terrible idea


Who says he's doing it unilaterally? You think we won't negotiate with the Mexicans? We may not tell them the when and where, but I'm sure the Mexican government will know we're going in.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:39 pm to
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It will cost very little to take the cartels down.


The cartels are Mexico. Don't you understand that? Good grief. So about the refugee crisis you've made. How much is that going to cost?

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You are part of the problem.


Wrong. I don't do drugs.

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The majority that uses common sense will be the cure.


There is no realistic cure. People are going to get high and you can't do a damn thing about it. You have to stop the demand and that won't ever happen. Cartels exist to feed that demand. You'd be better off killing the American users that created the cartels.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2793 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:43 pm to
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People are going to get high and you can't do a damn thing about it. 


You actually can do something about it. It takes a leader that is not bought.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23345 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Isn't one of Trump's positives supposed to be that he wouldn't embroil us in various foreign bullshite?


Various foreign bullshite that doesn’t concern us. The cartels are the main driving force behind the drugs and the illegal immigration and that shite does concern us.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:49 pm to
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You actually can do something about it. It takes a leader that is not bought.


The President is changing people's behaviors That's up to the individual to do. As long as there is choice there will be a market for drugs because people like doing them. We have millions and millions of broken people here and they like drugs. I don't go around blaming McDonald's for fat arse people. They're just servicing their customers. It's the fat asses fault for not having any self control and developing poor eating habits.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2793 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:56 pm to
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The President is changing people's behaviors That's up to the individual to do. As long as there is choice there will be a market for drugs because people like doing them. We have millions and millions of broken people here and they like drugs. I don't go around blaming McDonald's for fat arse people. They're just servicing their customers. It's the fat asses fault for not having any self control and developing poor eating habits. 


Maybe you need to be looked into from how you really do not care. Maybe, you are a big part of the problem.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:58 pm to
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So about the refugee crisis you've made. How much is that going to cost?


That I have made? Again, are you on crack? Biden is paying for us to ship this mfer’s in. It will cost a lot to ship these ILLEGALS ALIENS out. GTFO with refugees commie.

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Wrong. I don't do drugs.


You just gave up your only excuse for being stupid.

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There is no realistic cure. People are going to get high and you can't do a damn thing about it. You have to stop the demand and that won't ever happen. Cartels exist to feed that demand. You'd be better off killing the American users that created the cartels


Yes there is an easy and realistic cure. Stop the people from shipping the crap into our country. Poof people are not getting “high” or dying from the drugs. Cartels do feed that demand so exterminate the cartels. You mentioned killing the users that created cartels. If they do not have the drugs are they “users anymore”. If they break the law to stay a user there are laws to deal with them.

I feel sorry for people like you. What is coming is going to either change you into a functioning citizen or a person that gets swept into the depths of the terrible crap that has been brought on by the uniparty/dems/mafia/cartels. You need some education and religious faith.
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