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re: To all the pro-choice people

Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:51 pm to
You are making an emotional argument and I'm making a moral one.

Feeling extremely bad for my daughter and crying tears of pain with her still does not justify taking life. I'd also want to track down and kill each one of those evil rapists, too, but wouldn't because that is again immoral.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

A lot of women already choose to carry those children to term and don't commit suicide. If more women did start committing suicide, that would certainly be tragic, but then again so are the millions of abortions.


A lot do. Mostly super religious women.

A woman should never have to carry the product of rape, to remind her every day the crime committed against her. Period. To believe otherwise is just sick.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:51 pm to
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FooManChoo, comparing the physical & mental horrors of rape to the "trauma" of a broken relationship is exactly why I am against any male, and the majority of politicians are male, having a say so when it comes to abortions. My sister was brutally raped & tortured & mutilated by an animal, impregnated, and assholes like you are the last people on earth who should judge her, let alone be in any position to pass laws regarding her body. Get down out of your ivory tower & live among real people with real life issues.


And you have human garbage like Poncha Villa trivializing this as well. Honestly frick these people that trivialize rape. Even if my link was 1/100 of what if was, it's still horrible and the number of people affected by it shouldn't matter.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20919 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:51 pm to
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Why


Birth control is cheaper than welfare?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19338 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:52 pm to
You don't know the meaning of tragic when it comes to rape. What gives you & men like you the right to tell my sister, and the thousands in her position, what is right or wrong? A fact that our family researched: a lot of women do not choose to carry those fetuses to term. I am curious as to how much non religious research you have done? And it's not a matter of suicide, it more often the case that the rape victim is left traumatized for the rest of her life.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

A lot of women already choose to carry those children to term and don't commit suicide. If more women did start committing suicide, that would certainly be tragic, but then again so are the millions of abortions.


Here's my response: frick you heartless bastard.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72588 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:57 pm to
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Serious question, does the point really get lost? Is there some implication that since I referenced an incorrect picture, my point is rendered invalid?


It's certainly diminished.

It's not really that you used the wrong picture. It's more that you were so sure you were correct when challenged. Your credibility took a hit.

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I'll try to be more precise than selecting the first image that pops up in a google image search for, "drone attack dead children in Pakistan" (try it).


Not necessary. I could tell immediately from the image that it wasn't Pakistan and it wasn't recent. That's probably because one of us has real experience with the topic.

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BTW, I replaced the image with a more 'correct' one to make my point.


Just so it's not lost on anyone, here's the original image:



From Lebanon in 1982 with zero involvement from the United States
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:58 pm to
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You are making an emotional argument


No shite. Rape can be pretty emotional.

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I'm making a moral one.


Yeah, a morally deplorable one and you should be ashamed for having it. I know a girl that was gang rapped by her father and brothers when she was in her teens and got an abortion for it. But you sit all high and mighty on your pious throne judging everyone not knowing the hell others go through.

I agree that your argument is moral, and its moral is evil. You are fricking evil for saying what you are saying. You think God is on your side for your deplorable, repugnant thoughts, and that makes you more dangerous.

This is you:

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72588 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:59 pm to
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I'm making a moral one.


No, you aren't.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:01 pm to
I'm very sorry to hear about your sister. She was put in a terrible position. That said, you, too are arguing from emotion.

I did not compare the trauma of abuse or emotional heartbreak to rape. I argued that the premise of the rape argument is emotional and can be extended to other bad experiences that result in a woman not wanting to carry a child for emotional reasons, though to an assumed lesser degree than rape.

I judge actions, not emotions.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:02 pm to
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No, you aren't.


It's fricking evil is what it is. FooManChoo are people we should spit in their face. He really think he personally is the most wholly horrible despicable person on this site. Trivializing rape to a victim. It takes a real total piece of shite to do that, and he is the biggest piece who posts on this site.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:04 pm to
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I judge actions, not emotions.


But she made the wrong decision, and get to judge her for that. frick you and please never post here again. If I were a moderator, you'd be permabanned for such a despicable comment. You're pretty much evil. I've never read a more enraging and heartless post than what you've done on this thread. You should be ashamed of yourself, you cesspool.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:05 pm to
I'm consistent with my belief that an unborn child is deserving of the right to life except at the expense of the mother's life. That does not change due to the circumstances of conception.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:07 pm to
Clearly you are emotionally compromised by what happened to your sister. Again, I'm sorry that it happened. I'll continue with my argument based on my belief that life begins at conception and that two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72588 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:07 pm to
He's certainly a bit unhinged.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:08 pm to
I'm not heartless but that actually doesn't matter in this debate. Either the unborn are persons and deserving of life or they aren't. My feelings about rape doesn't change that.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:10 pm to
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Clearly you are emotionally compromised by what happened to your sister.


So your response is he's delusional due to what happened to his sister. You're just a nasty piece of work you know. If there is a hell, if there's any justice that will be your final destination. You're the only poster I'd say that about.

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Again, I'm sorry that it happened


This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:11 pm to
It's amazing that defending the rights of the unborn and wanting to save those lives is considered morally evil by some. Think what you want about me but I think it's evil to kill millions of pre born children.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:12 pm to
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Either the unborn are persons and deserving of life or they aren't


They aren't until they are viable, and able to live outside of the mothers womb, with or without medical intervention.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
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He's certainly a bit unhinged.


I am totally outraged by what he is saying. It is the most repugnant thing to tell a poster that his sister who was raped was too emotional and delusional to make the right decision after being brutally raped. If that doesn't make you a horrible person, I don't know what does. Maybe justifying murder, but that's about it.
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