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re: To All The Libs and Left
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:46 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:46 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Made $20k off a townhome and bought a house which is worth more than I bought it for
Both the wife and I made significant more money year over year
Healthcare is expensive
401k has never looked better
Not sure what the big deal was
Both the wife and I made significant more money year over year
Healthcare is expensive
401k has never looked better
Not sure what the big deal was
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:50 pm to Celery
I guess I'm tired of paying for everybody else's shite. Healthcare education food stamps housing free phones.
I make more money. My house is worth more because I save close to 25 years to move to the area that I really wanted to live in. Healthcare doesn't affect me because I'm a civil servant. I pay more in gas. I pay more in taxes. I get less return on my tax dolla. Public schools are so horrible I have to send my kids to private schools.
I've been a cop for 28 years and I've never felt less safe in my job or in my country since I've been alive. Our veterans are not taken care of. Our military basically has nothing. One of my partners son is a Navy seal and he and his wife had to buy their son a $2000 helmet so that he could be safe while he was being deployed. The government doesn't even pay for that.Everybody else comes here and lives off of my taxes.
My mom never never never made more than $30,000 in the year. And we never asked for any assistance.
I love New Orleans but wouldn't know more move my family and live there that I'd move them to the Middle East. I'm white but I've never been privileged, straight, and don't want to share my bathroom with anyone from the opposite sex other than my wife.
I may not agree with everything that Trump does and especially some of his reactions. But I would be a liar if I said I don't love the fact that every time somebody takes a shot Athe sticks it right back to him.
I make more money. My house is worth more because I save close to 25 years to move to the area that I really wanted to live in. Healthcare doesn't affect me because I'm a civil servant. I pay more in gas. I pay more in taxes. I get less return on my tax dolla. Public schools are so horrible I have to send my kids to private schools.
I've been a cop for 28 years and I've never felt less safe in my job or in my country since I've been alive. Our veterans are not taken care of. Our military basically has nothing. One of my partners son is a Navy seal and he and his wife had to buy their son a $2000 helmet so that he could be safe while he was being deployed. The government doesn't even pay for that.Everybody else comes here and lives off of my taxes.
My mom never never never made more than $30,000 in the year. And we never asked for any assistance.
I love New Orleans but wouldn't know more move my family and live there that I'd move them to the Middle East. I'm white but I've never been privileged, straight, and don't want to share my bathroom with anyone from the opposite sex other than my wife.
I may not agree with everything that Trump does and especially some of his reactions. But I would be a liar if I said I don't love the fact that every time somebody takes a shot Athe sticks it right back to him.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:51 pm to FanInLA
And those of the individuals I expect to vote for Obama or Hillary. Not well educated middle-class or above persons who should know better
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:57 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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nd those of the individuals I expect to vote for Obama or Hillary. Not well educated middle-class or above persons who should know better
Huh?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:58 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Tell me how much better the country and your life is after 8 years of Obama? Is your home worth more? Yes. Probably about $200 - $300K more than 1/20/2009 and $100K more than in 2006. NYS STAR program saves me a pretty fair amount in property taxes which helps.
Do you make more money? No. I retired in 2010. But inflation is low which is good. Income is a bit less than half now. Expenses are less, but I do need to use IRA money. And, of course, I pay less income tax. A pretty fair amount of my IRA withdrawls were made up by gains in the market value of my portfolio.
Is your health care better? Definitely. But Medicare (with supplemental insurance) is superior to just about any employer sponsored plan. Price increases the last four years have been very modest. Certainly at a lower rate than when I had employer sponsored insurance.
Do you feel safer? Neither safer nor less safe. But I'm feeling less safe since Jan 20. I'll feel safer when the regime in Washington stabilizes.
Explain, because I see nothing for the people on your side that made their lives better.
I had one kid who refused to get married until her gay friends could get married. She married last June which makes me happy. So at least one straight marriage was brought about by that Court decision.
I'm also happy GM and Chrysler didn't go under in 2009.
I'm a bit concerned about the future of food and drug safety and clean water and air going forward. Some of the budget proposals in those areas are draconian, to say the least.
Do you make more money? No. I retired in 2010. But inflation is low which is good. Income is a bit less than half now. Expenses are less, but I do need to use IRA money. And, of course, I pay less income tax. A pretty fair amount of my IRA withdrawls were made up by gains in the market value of my portfolio.
Is your health care better? Definitely. But Medicare (with supplemental insurance) is superior to just about any employer sponsored plan. Price increases the last four years have been very modest. Certainly at a lower rate than when I had employer sponsored insurance.
Do you feel safer? Neither safer nor less safe. But I'm feeling less safe since Jan 20. I'll feel safer when the regime in Washington stabilizes.
Explain, because I see nothing for the people on your side that made their lives better.
I had one kid who refused to get married until her gay friends could get married. She married last June which makes me happy. So at least one straight marriage was brought about by that Court decision.
I'm also happy GM and Chrysler didn't go under in 2009.
I'm a bit concerned about the future of food and drug safety and clean water and air going forward. Some of the budget proposals in those areas are draconian, to say the least.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 12:00 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:58 pm to SOCAL TIGER
The only valid question in the OP is healthcare.
Anyone who says their healthcare is better is lying or works for the government or is poor.
Anyone who had individual health insurance without subsidies has seen their premiums increase 50-300%.
Anyone working for an employer with less than 1000 employees has seen their healthcare increase 20-50%.
Out of pocket costs for everyone has increased. Most deductibles are $2500-$5000 for a family and annual out of pocket max is $5000-$10000.
Networks have also shrunk.
If you are the rare person that disagrees with any of this consider yourself lucky, you are the 1%.
Anyone who says their healthcare is better is lying or works for the government or is poor.
Anyone who had individual health insurance without subsidies has seen their premiums increase 50-300%.
Anyone working for an employer with less than 1000 employees has seen their healthcare increase 20-50%.
Out of pocket costs for everyone has increased. Most deductibles are $2500-$5000 for a family and annual out of pocket max is $5000-$10000.
Networks have also shrunk.
If you are the rare person that disagrees with any of this consider yourself lucky, you are the 1%.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:03 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:The idea that every rule in our epa and fda rulebook is completely needed for 100% clean water and safe drugs is silly.
I'm a bit concerned about the future of food and drug safety and clean water and air going forward.
The fact of the matter is that as long as drug prices are high and the market for drugs is so fricked up, the FDA will be in the news and in the crosshair.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:04 am to SOCAL TIGER
They can marry their cat. its GLORIOUS
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:04 am to SOCAL TIGER
quote:So people who did well for themselves during Obama should've known better and not vote for Obama? Alrighty then.
And those of the individuals I expect to vote for Obama or Hillary. Not well educated middle-class or above persons who should know better
Look, I simply did really well for myself and my family while Obama happened to be in office. There's shite that could be better, but it didn't affect me, and if it did, we as a family sucked it up and adjusted.
I mean damn, it's really not that hard to be happy, set, and be positive about things if you plan accordingly
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:04 am to SOCAL TIGER
Mizzou men's sports have had a few good football years, but the rest has been in pretty big decline. Maybe this will change under Trump.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:05 am to SOCAL TIGER
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Is your home worth more?
Yep.
Bought in April of 2009 at $209k, comps are in the $400k range now.
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Do you make more money?
Yep, about 30% more than I did in 2008.
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Is your health care better?
Yep, my rate went down because my employer offered more choices after ACA.
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Do you feel safer?
I never felt unsafe to begin with.
Any more questions?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:08 am to Remote Controlled
quote:Lucky you.
Yep, my rate went down because my employer offered more choices after ACA.
I find it amusing that every conservative on this site has claimed their health insurance is more expensive post-ACA, while every liberal claims it has gotten cheaper.
Considering there is no correlation between ideology and health insurance premium costs.... some of y'all are not being truthful. And for the record Remote Controlled, I am not accusing you in particular.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 12:09 am
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:10 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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while every liberal claims it has gotten cheaper.
Actually in believe most have commented that theirs has gone up. I don't claim to know the political ideologies of everyone posting here though.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:13 am to DuncanIdaho
I'm just pointing out that there is a very strong chance that some of the cons who are posting that their insurance is worse are in reality getting better insurance than 8 years ago, while many libs who are posting their insurance is better are probably ina worse situation.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well my healthcare is definitely more expensive. However, the wife and my wages have increased as well. Our 401k's are doing really well. We are doing OK.
The social issues I simply dgaf about. Marry a tree for all I care.
I guess I'm a centrist.
The social issues I simply dgaf about. Marry a tree for all I care.
I guess I'm a centrist.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:18 am to FanInLA
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Haven't we had like 75 months straight of job growth?
Are we all part-time, low wage workers? Because if we are, we've had lots of job growth.
That's what happens when full-time jobs are lost.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 12:19 am
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I find it amusing that every conservative on this site has claimed their health insurance is more expensive post-ACA, while every liberal claims it has gotten cheaper.
Truthfully, my previous providers rates went through the roof, blaming ACA in the process.
I switched to a cheaper alternative, who carries their healthcare system with their insurance, and to be honest it was eye opening to see the tests and care I was given compared to my previous doctor.
I chalked it down to the fact that they were also insuring me, therefore keeping me healthy was good for their bottom line.
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And for the record Remote Controlled, I am not accusing you in particular.
We cool. It's the internet, I'm not gonna take things personal, especially around here.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 1:28 am to SOCAL TIGER
You are trying to apply logic to illogical people. Our nature is one that wants to belong, to have purpose. Unfortunately, there are those among us who are desperate to fill this void in their lives. They join cults, and other extreme groups and adopt fringe causes in the name of justice. So when you ask them how is their life better in terms of a job or healthcare, it doesn't resonate. It's not the job, it's the idea that they are somehow a foot soldier in the fight for a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage that has made their lives better and given them purpose.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 1:34 am to SOCAL TIGER
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Is your home worth more?
Yes it is. 100k more to be exact.
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Do you make more money?
Yes
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Is your health care better?
I have fantastic health insurance
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Do you feel safer?
I do not feel safe at all now because it seems to be open season now on anyone that disagrees or questions the current administration. Also, Putin is playing Trump like a fiddle. You know who loses? We all do. While Trump continues to tweet and put out daily fires, Putin is calculating his next move.
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