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re: This NBA season will likely be politicized like no other

Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:31 pm to
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NFL is going to have a mess on their hands because the Browns had 12 players kneeling for the anthem last night...

I saw your girl helmut was flicking her bean to that on her fb page
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:33 pm to
The sport is dominated by African-American players and white Americans who have played with black guys for all of their competitive years and with international players. Why anyone should be dismayed or upset by this is beyond me.

The NBA fanbase leans left as well. With one and done in college hoops being the norm the quality of college play is going downhill so if you like hoops the NBA will represent the best quality product by far.

If you want conservative athletes and sports you may be better off with golf.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
Lol. The finals were the highest it's been in 20 years. The money the league is making is unbelievable these days, they're insanely flush with cash. The NBA does have a competition problem (superteam era, stars resting in reg season) but their woes have nothing to do w politics.

The NBA knows who their base is (black people, not Deep South white boys) and they're smart to be paying attention to that. You might not like it, but that's what smart businesses do.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
Man im going to boycott the NBA now..

Oh wait i started that in the mid 90s.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73482 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:35 pm to
Who watches that crap?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
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NFL is going to have a mess on their hands because the Browns had 12 players kneeling for the anthem last night...including a white player for the first time. If other teams follow suit and we start seeing large numbers of players kneeling at every game, the NFL is really going to be shooting themselves in the foot.




Easily avoidable problem. I don't seem to recall the national anthem being shown on tv for regular season and playoff games with the exception of the Thanksgiving games and Superbowl and maybe conference championship games.

With so many players kneeling it soon becomes normalized and not a big deal. Jehovah Witnesses in baseball and other sports do not come out for the national anthem. I don't see you complaining about that.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
I think the issue is that people are tired of politics in every aspect of their lives. Sports are meant to be a temporary escape from this political nonsense. Most people just want to watch a game without being reminded of the hyper politicization of modern society.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I think the issue is that people are tired of politics in every aspect of their lives. Sports are meant to be a temporary escape from this political nonsense. Most people just want to watch a game without being reminded of the hyper politicization of modern society.


You have a point. We could just not play the national anthem before games. There's no legal or constitutional reason to do that. It didn't start in baseball until WWI.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21881 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Jehovah Witnesses in baseball and other sports do not come out for the national anthem. I don't see you complaining about that.


Don't really pay much attention to baseball until October...and the anthem is shown on TV for most playoff games and it sure looks like the entire team is present and standing. Nobody kneeling or sitting in the dugout. If someone stayed in the clubhouse until the anthem was over, I don't mind that because they aren't using the anthem as something to draw attention to themselves as a protest. If NFL players wanted to wait to come out of the locker area until the anthem was over, I wouldn't care. I don't like the use of the anthem as a form of protest because I find it highly disrespectful
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:46 pm to
NBA;didn't watch
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:47 pm to
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You have a point. We could just not play the national anthem before games. There's no legal or constitutional reason to do that. It didn't start in baseball until WWI.



When we do that, the terrorists have won.


Besides, they'd just try to pull some other bullshite political stunt once that was done.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21881 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:50 pm to
If the Browns protest catches on league wide, I wonder what she'll be saying next year when those same players are complaining because they have to take paycuts after NFL salary cap drops due to lower that expected league revenue when a bunch of people stop watching and going to games or buying merchandise.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:53 pm to
Honestly, the best way to drive this shite to the bottom is the media, specifically ESPN. CBS, Fox, and NBC don't really have the airtime to fill like ESPN does so they'll be leading the charge to the bottom.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

NBA has sucked for decades.


Pretty much this. I'm big into college football and basketball. The rest is filler.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15693 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:04 pm to
I'm glad this shite won't go on in college basketball, the only league worth a damn.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:19 pm to
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NBA had a long-standing rule in place requiring players to stand for the anthem. Probably explains why we didn't see anthem protesting at NBA games.


This is correct. They are required by the league to stand for national anthem.

I'm not sure why the NFL doesn't adopt the college policy and just play the anthem while the players are still in the locker room. I also wish each player who knelt would have to publicly explain and take questions on his exact grievance and overall general philosophy. It would take a only a few moments for everyone to realize how ignorant and unintelligent every single one of them is. But whatever stay woke bros
Posted by ST.TAMMANYTIGER
covington(Only banned twice)
Member since Mar 2004
7798 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:22 pm to
I quit watching the NBA 25 years ago.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Who cares? These are people we watch play a sport, not comment on social issues.

I'll watch them play the sport and I'll ignore their commentary on social issues.


I generally agree with this approach. If a liberal/progressive/sjw actor or director makes a movie, I decide to see it on the basis of how good the movie will be.

However this is slightly different. These aren't athletes who have liberal leanings and share them outside the game. They literally perform their little act right before the game.

That's like if joss whedon put a SJW screed at the beginning of Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4470 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:36 pm to
And the NBA, as the NFL experienced last year, will see their viewing numbers and $$$ drop like a rock. ESPN will also continue to lose viewers as long as they talk politics.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

The NBA knows who their base is (black people


Not really...there's not enough money in the black community for it to be the base.

The NBA has been great to watch the last few years, overall talent is off the charts and super-teams or periodically dominant teams have been around forever.

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