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This is Amazing! Confederate Soldier Born in 1846 Talks About Early Life & Civil War

Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:57 am
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:57 am
Probably NSFW, only because of the word he uses for black people, but this is incredible hearing a 101 year-old man talking about what the 1860's were like, and his ideas on why the Civil War was fought.

I figured some of you history buffs might like to hear it. He sounds incredibly well for a 101 year-old. This was recorded in 1947.


LINK
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:13 am to
I've heard this Howell recording before. Very interesting stuff.

Here is a video interview of a Civil War vet done in 1959. He claimed to have been born in 1846 which would have made him 113 years old here. However, researchers dug up old census records and proved he was born in 1856 making him 4 years old at the time of the war and about 100 years old at the time of the video interview. (It looks like "stolen valor" has always been a thing).

Nonetheless, it's still interesting see a video interview with someone born in the 1850's even if he is a fake veteran: LINK
Posted by thetigerman
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:20 am to
Fascinating listen! Thanks for posting!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:06 am to
quote:

his ideas on why the Civil War was fought.



If he says anything other than slavery, he's just trying to make himself feel better.
Posted by I Love Bama
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:15 am to
Not sure if trolling.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:32 am to
quote:

If he says anything other than slavery, he's just trying to make himself feel better.

I haven't read it yet - and apparently neither did you or you wouldn't have said "if."

I ask you - why are you opposing Trump?

IF you say anything other than 'socialism' you are just trying to make yourself feel better.

That is how this line of logic works, ya no.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:52 am to
Sounds very much like my great grandfather who was born in 1845. He was one of the last 50 civil war veterans left alive when he died in 1948 - I was 10 years old. I loved listening to his tales, although I don't remember many details now. The one I always remember was the Yankee who wandered off and get captured by them. They would visit with him and give him some food and tobacco and send him back. After they 'captured' him a couple more times, they decided he was getting lost on purpose to get their tobacco. So they told him if he came back they were going to shoot him.

I never heard my great-grandfather say one negative word about blacks. He, nor his immediate family, had never owned a slave. Although I never met my other great grandfathers none of them owned slaves either. According to census records, I have to go back to the early 1800s to find ancestors who owned slaves.

My family's ancestors were too poor to own a slave. In fact many of them lived along side freed blacks working as share-croppers during the reconstruction period.

These were proud men - the salt of the earth - and I honor their personal character. Their legacy has made me what I am today.

Thanks so much for this story - reminds me of my own "pap," as we used to call him.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:12 am to
Dude, you are almost 80?

Brings new perspective to when you get into a thread argument.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:14 am to
I bet you were a history major lol.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Dude, you are almost 80?

Brings new perspective to when you get into a thread argument.


CB58 is gettin on about it. He's been on here as long as I remember...
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:20 am to
I like the time I was born in
Posted by eddieray
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:49 am to
I didn't know Foghorn Leghorn was that old
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Not sure if trolling.


He suffers from a combination of Troll Fever and blind devotion to Liberalism.

tl;dr - Ignore him.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I like the time I was born in


No sense of history, huh?


The thing that intrigues me the most about this is that we have a man who was born in 1846 who is giving us recorded history of certain aspects of his life. I understand that we don't have official verification of that, but it's probably not off much if at all.

Makes me wonder who was the "earliest born"- person in history to have been recorded. I know that Thomas Edison was recorded circa 1900 (?), but I haven't checked to see when he was born.

Anyway, that's the primary aspect of this that kind of blew me away.


Edit - Edison was born in 1847.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27094 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:11 am to
Sam Watkins, in his memoir "Company Aytch," stated:


quote:

Reader of mine, did you live in that stormy period? In the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and sixty one do you remember those stirring times? Do you recollect in that year for the first time in your life of hearing Dixie and the Bonnie Blue Flag? Fort Sumter was fired upon from Charleston by troops under General Beauregard and Major Anderson of the Federal army surrendered. The die was cast; war was declared; Lincoln called for troops from Tennessee and all the Southern States, but Tennessee, loyal to her Southern sister States, passed the ordinance of secession and enlisted under the Stars and Bars. From that day on, every person, almost, was eager for the war and we were all afraid it would be over and we not in the fight. Companies were made up regiments organized left left left was heard from morning till night. By the right flank file left march were familiar sounds. Everywhere could be seen Southern cockades made by the ladies and our sweethearts. And some who afterwards became Union men made the most fiery secession speeches. Flags made by the ladies were presented to companies and to hear the young orators tell of how they would protect that flag, and that they would come back with the flag or come not at all, and if they fell they would fall with their backs to the field and their feet to the foe, would fairly make our hair stand on end with intense patriotism, and we wanted to march right off and whip twenty Yankees. But we soon found out that the glory of war was at home among the ladies and not upon the field of blood and carnage of death, where our comrades were mutilated and torn by shot and shell. And to see the cheek blanch and to hear the fervent prayer, aye, I might say the agony of mind were very different indeed from the patriotic times at home.


He later states:

quote:

Secession may have been wrong in the abstract and has been tried and settled by the arbitrament of the sword and bayonet, but I am as firm in my convictions to day of the right of secession as I was in 1861. The South is our country; the North is the country of those who live there. We are an agricultural people; they are a manufacturing people. They are the descendants of the good old Puritan Plymouth Rock stock, and we of the South from the proud and aristocratic stock of Cavaliers. We believe in the doctrine of State rights they in the doctrine of centralization.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:25 am to
Reminds me of my Grandfathers. They werent complex men, but articulate with tons of common sense.

You want to see a Liberal explode, say States Rights
Posted by Port Royal
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

If he says anything other than slavery, he's just trying to make himself feel better.



Still waiting for that Reparations hand out? Keep on dreaming.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:12 am to
quote:

States Rights


to own slaves?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:17 am to
quote:

slaves?


Do people like you ever have an original thought?
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