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re: There is no doubt town hall agitators are paid stooges

Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:22 am to
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I would like him to justify that.
that statement is quite obviously not true
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:23 am to
So you claim I don't want him to explain himself? You're entitled to your opinion.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:25 am to
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you claim I don't want him to explain himself? You're entitled to your opinion.
no. I'm merely observing that there's nothing he could say that you would consider justification. if I'm wrong tell me what it is that he could say that might alleviate your concern over his decision.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:25 am to
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why? typically Cabinet confirmations are a mere formality



Part of his job is vetting these nominations. He admitted that he didn't watch her confirmation hearing. So, he admitted to not doing his job. It looks like he didn't because she paid him so much money in donations. That presents a problem imo.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:27 am to
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who represent a specific district


Which specific district does Senator Cassidy represent?
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:28 am to
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Senators represent the entire state, sweetheart.

First off, I didn't say senators, I said representatives, as in the House of Representatives. And only people from the district that elected the rep. should be attending that town hall.

But with that said, just like you said, the same thing applies to senators. For a senator, their "district" is the state that elected them. So if it is a senator that is having the town hall, then only people from that state should be at the town hall.

And to bring this back to my original post in this thread, "carding" people that attend these town halls seems to be an easy way to determine if the people are actually residents of the districts or states of the elected official. I bet if that happened, we'd find out that people from outside the districts/states (especially districts) are attending these town halls.

ETA: And my response that you replied to was a response to the notion that all house and senate reps are there to represent the entire nation. As you stated, that is not the case. They are there to represent the people that elected them, which when done properly, ends up serving the interests of the nation as a whole.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:28 am to
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Part of his job is vetting these nominations

again, Cabinet nominations are typically a mere formality

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It looks like he didn't because she paid him so much money in donations

or b/c the President is a Republican and so is Cassidy
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:29 am to
Y'all did jackass. Remember the Tea Party at Democrat Town Halls? Nah, why would you? Hypocrites. Dbap
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:29 am to
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He admitted that he didn't watch her confirmation hearing. So, he admitted to not doing his job.
If he acted on no information, that would be true.

OTOH, if he reviewed testimony transcripts, was briefed by aides who did watch it, or had other information, it would not necessarily be true at all.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:29 am to
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There is no doubt town hall agitators are paid stooges


First, what does it matter? It is not as if the senators and representatives are volunteering for their positions, or would turn away a donation check at one of these events. Second, if they are so easily bought, then it seems like the easy solution would be to just offer them more to not show up?

I think these town halls are incredibly interesting. I thought they were interesting when the TP did it 7-8 years ago as well, just didn't agree with the message.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:31 am to
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again, Cabinet nominations are typically a mere formality


So why couldn't Cassidy say that? If it's such a non-issue, one would he think he'd have no problem saying the confirmation isn't as important as many of his constituents think.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:32 am to
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OTOH, if he reviewed testimony transcripts, was briefed by aides who did watch it, or had other information, it would not necessarily be true at all.


He said he didn't watch the whole thing and laughed as if it was ludicrous to expect he would actually take an interest in doing his job. It was very off-putting.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:33 am to
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First, what does it matter?
As long as they are actually constituents and their intent is to engage in dialogue rather than disrupt dialogue, it doesn't matter.

Unfortunately, in many instances they are not constituents, and they attend with disruption as their primary goal.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:34 am to
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Why is anyone holding a town hall in February 2017? 
I agree. We just had elections in November, and we won. If you don't like it, get better candidates and show up to vote.

But for now, sit down and STFU.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:35 am to
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Y'all did jackass.


You need an English class. That doesn't convey the meaning you intended.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:38 am to
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It was very off-putting.
Depends on the question and means of asking it I guess. I didn't see the exchange you're referring to. If the question was politely voiced, and he responded the way you describe, it would be offputting for me as well.

In general though, he was a hell of a lot more tolerant of the solely disruptive intent of many of those attendees than I would have been.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:40 am to
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the dems might even be dumber than I thought.
Oh they are, no doubt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:42 am to
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So why couldn't Cassidy say that?

because that kind of insults a Cabinet Secretary and his party. that would be bad optics on multiple levels
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:43 am to
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Depends on the question and means of asking it I guess


The question was posed respectfully but Cassidy didn't take it seriously. He actually chuckled at the assumption that he watched the entire 2 hour hearing. I lost major respect for him after watching the meeting.

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In general though, he was a hell of a lot more tolerant of the solely disruptive intent of many of those attendees than I would have been.
I guess. He has a job to do and it's not always a cake walk. If I made his money and got his benefits, I wouldn't mind laughing in the faces of my constituents either.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:45 am to
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because that kind of insults a Cabinet Secretary and his party. that would be bad optics on multiple levels


So you're saying he represents his party, not his constituents and he doesn't owe his constituents explanations for his actions. We must read between the lines to assume the motivation for his actions and that's supposed to be reasonable?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 8:46 am
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