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The Transqueers Take The Mask Off

Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:00 am
these people simply need throat punches


The Transqueers Take The Mask Off


Judith Butler and Andrea Long Chu explain their gender revolution. It's wild!

It’s telling, it seems to me, that we’ve begun to see a shift in the tactics of critical queer and gender theorists. They are beginning to make actual arguments in the public square, instead of relying on the media, the government, and the courts to impose their ideas by fiat. The two most prominent examples of this are a new cover-story in New York Magazine by Andrea Long Chu, “Freedom of Sex,” and a new book by Judith Butler called Who’s Afraid of Gender? Butler has even gone so far as to write this book in decipherable, if inelegant, English for the first time in her career.

Reading her again after a few years, it becomes clearer and clearer why she is so hard to engage. This is a work so embedded in neo-Marxism it’s impossible to grasp it without accepting its collectivist and revolutionary premises. For Butler, in matters of sex and the body, nothing is as it appears, the individual has no independent existence or capacity for reason outside social and cultural forces, and even the basics of anatomy, like a penis, are just socially constructed all the way down. There is no independent, stable variable like nature or biology or evolution that can help us understand our bodies, and our sex. Everything is in our heads, and our heads are entirely created by others in the past and present:

Nature is not the ground upon which construction of gender happens. Both the material and social dimensions of the body are constructed through an array of practices, discourses, and technologies.

The material dimensions of the body are just ideas: “Anatomy alone does not determine what sex a person is.” You might think, for example, that when a baby is born with a vagina, we are observing her sex. But for Butler,

sex assignment is not a simple description of anatomical facts, but a way of imagining what they will mean, or should mean. The girl continues to be girled; the boy continues to be boyed; sex assignment, understood as an iterative process, relays a set of desires, if not fantasies, about how one is to live one’s body in the world. And such fantasies, coming from elsewhere, make us less self-knowing than we sometimes claim.

Later on, Butler warmly approves of this quote from Catharine MacKinnon:

Women and men are made into the sexes as we know them by the social requirements of heterosexuality.

This is Blank Slatism in its ultimate form, a denial of any independent biological influence on human nature or behavior. The fact that we are a species of mammal, organized around a binary reproductive strategy for millions of years, in which we are divided almost exactly into male and female, and in which there are only two types of gametes, eggs and sperm — and no “speggs” — is, for Butler, irrelevant. It is not even a fact. The sex binary is, rather, a human invention — specifically, a product of American “white supremacy.” I kid you not:

The hetero-normative framework for thinking of gender as binary was imposed by colonial powers on the Global South, to track the legacies of slavery and colonialism engaged in brutal surgical and sexological practices of determining and “correcting” sex in light of ideals of whiteness … Gender norms were created through surgical racism. Black bodies were the experimental field from which white gender norms were crafted. Dimorphism serves the reproduction of the normative white family in the United States.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:02 am to
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The hetero-normative framework for thinking of gender as binary was imposed by colonial powers on the Global South, to track the legacies of slavery and colonialism


You cant save these folks. We need to let this strain of humanity die out.
Posted by Placekicker
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:05 am to
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The hetero-normative framework for thinking of gender as binary was imposed by colonial powers on the Global South, to track the legacies of slavery and colonialism engaged in brutal surgical and sexological practices of determining and “correcting” sex in light of ideals of whiteness … Gender norms were created through surgical racism


Now, that is some impressive mental gymnastics. They have linked biological sex determination to slavery.

They’re living in a fantasy land. I just can’t with these people.
Wow. Just wow…
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
1525 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:09 am to
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The material dimensions of the body are just ideas


Yeah, if you are a retard in addition to having a wild imagination.
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 am to
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imposed by colonial powers


The implication being that, before colonial powers, sex/gender was fluid as they want it to be today.

That is some serious, mentally ill fantasy as it is not grounded in reality.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
1875 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 am to
It is well known that the cavemen 100,000 years ago were gender fluid before the bastard white colonists arrived in America.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19524 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:16 am to

No surprise. Movements like that are designed to destroy the moral foundation of the west. It’s a strategy the communists came up with a long time ago.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:17 am to
Judith Butler



Andrea Long Chu

This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:18 am to
How would you even begin to engage with someone who believes something like this? The "sex binary" predates "white supremacy" by an amount of time that exceeds the time of hominid existence.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4703 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:18 am to
The craziest thing is that if you put 95% of democrat politicians on the spot over this stuff, they won't condemn it outright.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27143 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:19 am to
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human invention


Nah, it wasn't but hey, it was foretold that they would exchange the truth for a lie...
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4397 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:21 am to
Idleness is the devil’s workshop and these folks are a prime example of those who have way too much time on their hands.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56354 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:22 am to
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The sex binary is, rather, a human invention — specifically, a product of American “white supremacy.”
because of course it is.

Better not look at the black voter breakdown in the states' gay marriage ban laws from years ago.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26778 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:25 am to
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You cant save these folks. We need to let this strain of humanity die out.


This is why I don't get all mad and emotional about this stuff. These are the fricking weirdos that we don't want to breed. Let them drag all the other weak people down with them. Cleanse them from the gene pool.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:26 am to
these beliefs are a notch or two below those of Genesis literalists who believe that the earth is 6000 years old and that Eve corrupted Adam into having sex because a snake talked her into it

they should be publicly ridiculed by anyone and everyone regardless of political ideology
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26778 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:29 am to
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these beliefs are a notch or two below those of Genesis literalists who believe that the earth is 6000 years old and that Eve corrupted Adam into having sex because a snake talked her into it


And they will also happily describe how another passage was simply a metaphor. Not sure how they know what is literal and what is not.

Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:43 am to
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The hetero-normative framework for thinking of gender as binary was imposed by colonial powers on the Global South, to track the legacies of slavery and colonialism engaged in brutal surgical and sexological practices of determining and “correcting” sex in light of ideals of whiteness … Gender norms were created through surgical racism.




That's an impressive amount of revisionist history. I smell the distinct bouquet of the 1619 Project in this (for reference, it smells like old socks, menthol and the desperation to manufacture a niche in order to fulfill a deep need for self-validation).

For reference, gender has been synonymous with anatomical sex since forever. The very word "gender" comes from the Latin word "genus", which means class, family or sort. If that word sounds familiar it's because it's still used today in biological taxonomy as a method of classifying life based on physical characteristics (rather on how they "feel" they should be classified).
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19056 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:53 am to
These weirdos are the equivalent of flat earthers. You can’t reason or should attempt to reason with anyone that proclaims they were born with the wrong body parts. They’re mentally ill just as much as the guy who stands on the corner talking to himself and scratching lampposts. To try and reason with them is to take part in their delusions.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17296 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:19 am to
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And they will also happily describe how another passage was simply a metaphor. Not sure how they know what is literal and what is no
you may have missed my point

the insanely delusional beliefs espoused by the authors linked in the OP are even more outlandishly anti-science than those of hardcore creationists

i would hope you would denounce them as vigorously
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6506 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:20 am to
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sex assignment is not a simple description of anatomical facts, but a way of imagining what they will mean, or should mean. The girl continues to be girled; the boy continues to be boyed; sex assignment, understood as an iterative process, relays a set of desires, if not fantasies, about how one is to live one’s body in the world.

Women and men are made into the sexes as we know them by the social requirements of heterosexuality.


This is complete bullshite. Boys don't play rough because they are told that's what boys do. Girls don't play dress up because they are told to either. Kids play how they want. There's a reason most boys do "boy" things and girls do "girl" things. That reason is called nature.
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