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re: The rhetoric of the left is pretty scary

Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:17 pm to
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You guys are supposed to be the party of tolerance.


The left is extremely tolerant, if you agree with everything they say and you're not a straight white American male.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:18 pm to
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I'm not sure you understand how accusations work.


Sure I do. I know enough about "how accusations work" to know that I din't make one.

I made an observation. If you would like to see how I arrived at that observation then you should see the same things i've seen. All you have to do is do some digging for old posts from reddit, this site, and similar message boards over the last two presidents tenures.

You seem to think that I was equating this entire board to the OP's hand full of posts from r/politics.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:18 pm to
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posters don't wish jail upon Hillary and Obama?

Come on, man


Jail for crimes.

Holy shite you're a completely disingenuous hack if you think that's comparable.

I mean I can say that you post about raping children, right?

I mean it's in your post history.

frick you.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Jail for crimes.

Holy shite you're a completely disingenuous hack if you think that's comparable.


:sigh:

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I mean I can say that you post about raping children, right?


go ahead

This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:22 pm to
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quote:
Jail for crimes.

Holy shite you're a completely disingenuous hack if you think that's comparable.


:sigh:


So you actually think a poster saying Hillary should be jailed for violating the espionage act based on evidence of her bathroom server

Is equal to

Posts about describing the death and torture of people.



You're a fricking liar piece of shite hack.

But you're a "moderate" right?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:22 pm to
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The quotes in the OP are mostly about Trump going to jail or losing all his assets.


And i have no problem with that. I don't see how "losing all his assets" makes any sense, but i don't think we are dealing with intelligent people if they make those type of "wants" or desires.

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The hanging comments I've seen were extreme examples (and may have been deleted by admins), but are you denying that posters don't wish jail upon Hillary and Obama?


Wishing jail time vs. wishing death and being dragged in the street is completely different and you know that. I for one, advocate jail time for Clinton. As far as Obama goes, i need to see proof before i make that jump. But we've all seen the proof of Clinton. I often advocate that the book should be thrown at politicians who commit illegal acts so an example can be made to the whole corrupt lot of them. That, in no way, equates to death or harm to others, and trying to make that jump is simple hackery, and you know this.

And, my entire argument that i've been making on this thread, is that you can't make accusations and then say "you look it up" when challenged for proof. Again, you know this as well. It completely removes credibility to your posts.

In addition, you won't find comments like reddit, on here from liberal posters either, due to the mods on this website and the smaller size comparatively speaking to reddit. You know this. Stuff like that isn't tolerated and if it's on the board longer than an hour, it's usually because the mod has fallen asleep. I don't think i'm obligated to defend this website at all, but i'm just trying to relay some common sense here.

ETA: In addition, i don't just call out libs for this. I've called out conservative posters during the primary when Trump was starting his "Cruz's dad assassinated Kennedy" stupidity, and i got onto CajunAngelle pretty hard for linking a motherjones website as proof.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:23 pm to
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but are you denying that posters don't wish jail upon Hillary and Obama?


Hillary? Absolutely, she mishandled classified information. Anyone here would be in jail for the same thing.

Obama? Maybe if evidence of wrong doing is brought forth.

If they find an undeniable connection to Russia for Trump and evidence is strong. I'll want him in jail also. It's just I don't see that happening.



Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:24 pm to
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So you actually think a poster saying Hillary should be jailed for violating the espionage act based on evidence of her bathroom server

Is equal to

Posts about describing the death and torture of people.



how you came to this conclusion is quite stunning

Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:26 pm to
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how you came to this conclusion is quite stunning




You made that comparison you fricking liar.

Is this your way of dealing with your own lying hackness? Pretend you didn't do it 5 minutes ago?

Pathetic
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:27 pm to
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And, my entire argument that i've been making on this thread, is that you can't make accusations and then say "you look it up" when challenged for proof. Again, you know this as well. It completely removes credibility to your posts.



I realize all of this

but I also think you are having selective memory on certain things

also, in no way, am I making grand sweeping generalizations about this board or anyone, just that you can find awful posts on pretty much any internet forum, including this one, so making a giant generalization about "the left" based on a few posts on reddit is pretty laughable to me

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:28 pm to
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You made that comparison you fricking liar.


in no way did I do this

perhaps practice comprehension and come back to me
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:28 pm to
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also, in no way, am I making grand sweeping generalizations about this board or anyone,


You did it against me you fricking liar.

You're really this fricking pathetic...
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:29 pm to
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how you came to this conclusion is quite stunning


To be fair, you stated this:

quote:

The hanging comments I've seen were extreme examples (and may have been deleted by admins), but are you denying that posters don't wish jail upon Hillary and Obama?


Your phrasing of that sentence implies a false equivocation of the former. If you remove the ", but" and insert a period, then new paragraph, state the next statement, then there is no issue with your phrasing.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:30 pm to
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You did it against me you fricking liar.


ok yes

I did generalize you as irrational and emotional and thusly having a high probability of making awful posts

yes, I did do that

sorry, not sorry
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:30 pm to
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CptBengal


You seem really angry. Like, even angrier than you were when Obama was president.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Your phrasing of that sentence implies a false equivocation of the former. If you remove the ", but" and insert a period, then new paragraph, state the next statement, then there is no issue with your phrasing.



I was comparing the comments in the OP wanting Trump to go to jail with comments about Hillary and Obama going to jail

that was the only comparison I made
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:33 pm to
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also, in no way, am I making grand sweeping generalizations about this board or anyone, just that you can find awful posts on pretty much any internet forum, including this one, so making a giant generalization about "the left" based on a few posts on reddit is pretty laughable to me


My irrational, can't-back-up-with-any-facts, position of the day is that Reddit would never have allowed these types of posts about Obama or Clinton. The people posting this stuff would have been banned under normal circumstances absent hyper-politicization. Yet I see massive agreement underneath the comments from numerous people.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:33 pm to
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also, in no way, am I making grand sweeping generalizations about this board or anyone,


You kind of did in the earlier posts.

quote:

just that you can find awful posts on pretty much any internet forum,


Agreed.

quote:

so making a giant generalization about "the left" based on a few posts on reddit is pretty laughable to me


I agree with that as well. I never stated "the left" is equivalent to reddit posts on their liberal talk board. Just as i recognize those on this board that are liberal, aren't nearly as liberal (at least some of them) as those on democrat underground.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:34 pm to
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I was comparing the comments in the OP wanting Trump to go to jail with comments about Hillary and Obama going to jail

that was the only comparison I made


I'm talking basic construction of the sentence. Using a conjunction but wishing to state 2 separate messages in one sentence doesn't lead itself to easy interpretation. What are we arguing about again???
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 2:35 pm to
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You kind of did in the earlier posts.


all I said was that the posts in the OP sound like posts on this board

I've seen similar posts on this board before

that isn't a generalization, it is an observation

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