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"The poor do not have access to fruits and vegetables. It is why they are obese"
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:01 pm
What will it take for this talking point to go away?
NYT article on how most studies disprove the exsistence of "food deserts"
Wapo article on the myth that healthy eating is more expensive
Somebody on here claimed the other day that their experience growing up in poverty in new orleans is what caused them to believe that the poor don't have access to healthy, affordable food. I would like to see what they think of most social science studies on the matter.
Personally, I think it is a baloney talking point, and just another way to avoid responsibility for actions.
NYT article on how most studies disprove the exsistence of "food deserts"
Wapo article on the myth that healthy eating is more expensive
Somebody on here claimed the other day that their experience growing up in poverty in new orleans is what caused them to believe that the poor don't have access to healthy, affordable food. I would like to see what they think of most social science studies on the matter.
Personally, I think it is a baloney talking point, and just another way to avoid responsibility for actions.
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
How much fresh produce do you see in Hollygrove or Central City or the Lower 9th Ward?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
PURPLE DRANK!
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
The poor do not have access to fruits and vegetables. It is why they are obese
Not gonna lie, I didn't read either article. But this line is complete crap. EBT cards only allow for certain purchases. Fruits and vegetables are all covered under the restrictions. It's about personal choice, not availability.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The fact that people can look at the obesity problem and think the root cause is anything other than bad parenting and a lack of personal responsibility is depressing.
ETA: And I mean the obesity problem as a whole, not each and every case of obesity.
ETA: And I mean the obesity problem as a whole, not each and every case of obesity.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You contradicted by bringing baloney into the conversation.
(I know but it was an easy joke)
(I know but it was an easy joke)
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We have a concession after lunch at school. We sell out of hot chips in 2 days. We sold 6 bananas and 3 apples last year total. It's a choice.
Secondly, it always amazes me that these kids have money for concessions.
Secondly, it always amazes me that these kids have money for concessions.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Maybe this was an issue a long time ago, but for the most part, as Wal-Mart, Krogers, etc. replace smaller markets, with it comes more affordable prices and more options.
don't have access to healthy, affordable food.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I find Fruit is cheaper. But what do I know.
I mean:
A) an Apple is cheaper than a carton of fries
B) its healthier than said fries
C) has no long term health effects
I mean:
A) an Apple is cheaper than a carton of fries
B) its healthier than said fries
C) has no long term health effects
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
The New York Times’ Mark Bittman — no fan of Frito-Lay — writes that the idea that junk food is cheaper than real food is “just plain wrong” and that blaming unhealthy habits on cost is incorrect. People who eat lots of unhealthy food aren’t doing so because they lack cheap, healthy options. Instead, it’s because they like junk food. Making junk food comparatively more pricey by tacking on taxes — a proposal that has been revived many times by Yale’s Kelly Brownell (and recently made into law in Denmark) — mostly means that people will pay more taxes, not eat more kale.
I make this point every time one of these threads pop up.
As someone who lived virtually on nothing but cereal, sandwiches, bananas, and spaghetti for two years after college, nothing pisses me off quicker than when people say junk food is the only affordable option for people of modest financial means.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Poor people are fat because of the same reasons they are poor.
Low IQ people make bad decisions.
Low IQ people make bad decisions.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:09 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
How much fresh produce do you see in Hollygrove or Central City or the Lower 9th Ward?
If store owners there had requests for fresh produce or had success selling it, wouldn't you think they would? Do you believe they do not offer these options because they're evil?
Anyone who's been behind a few EBT carts knows that the reason "food deserts" exist is directly tied to diets full of chips, frozen dinnners, and sodas.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yep..they walk right by the apples and oranges going to the soda and chip aisle with their EBT card.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:10 pm to Salmon
quote:
Poor people are fat because of the same reasons they are poor.
Low IQ people make bad decisions
Yep. And the tax payer is not only on the hook for the poor decision to buy unhealthy foods but the medical bills for diabetes, heart disease, etc.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
one major issue i have with these discussions is simple: sugary drinks
even in an extreme "food desert" scenario, there is no justification for sugary drinks over (free) water
ok there is one justification: living in Flynt, Michigan
even in an extreme "food desert" scenario, there is no justification for sugary drinks over (free) water
ok there is one justification: living in Flynt, Michigan
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:14 pm to bamarep
quote:
Yep..they walk right by the apples and oranges going to the soda and chip aisle with their EBT card.
Because the fruit is too expensive!
Never mind facts:
Average retail price of bananas in U.S. = $.58/lb or $.04/ounce LINK
Bag of Lays: $2.48 or $0.31/ounce!!! LINK
By weight, fricking potato chips are nearly 8x more expensive than bananas.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:16 pm to UGATiger26
quote:
By weight, fricking potato chips are nearly 8x more expensive.
so just to play devil's advocate here, for poor people you should judge it by price per calorie
because if you are thinking from a pure survival standpoint, they are buying calories
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Travel around the world and you see that we are pretty much the only country full of fat poor people.
Shitty fast food and processed crap is cheaper than quality fruits and vegetable.
Problem is poor people also suck as buying things in bulk or frozen.
Shitty fast food and processed crap is cheaper than quality fruits and vegetable.
Problem is poor people also suck as buying things in bulk or frozen.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:17 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:True, but that doesn't mean fruits/veggies are expensive.
Shitty fast food and processed crap is cheaper than fruits and vegetable.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
One need only to go to the grocery store, where cheap vegetables are readily available, to see what decisions are being made by those on food stamps.
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