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re: The latest from the EBRPSS fiasco-school board meeting last night
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:05 pm to LSUMJ
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:05 pm to LSUMJ
quote:Does Pat Smith post on this board?
This board is so blindly against anything the board does, the board gets criticized even when it tries to do the right thing.
so Pat Smith is doing the right thing by blaming others?
F*ck Pat Smith! She's not on the school board anyway.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:11 pm to Bard
quote:I didn't read anything in the OP's linked article which says any school board member is trying to "deflect away from the current findings."
My point is that if there are already people trying to deflect away from the current findings,
quote:
Board President David Tatman said the review needs to be done by outsiders in order to clear the stain left upon school system employees.
“Everybody is impugned by this,” Tatman said. “This audit gives us the opportunity to dig down deeper … and keep this from ever happening again.”
So, it's just the opposite. The school board president says he wants to get to dig deeper about what happened and make sure it never happens again.
I do, too.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:15 pm to BR Tiger
quote:Be careful....Poodlebrain is going to accuse you of questioning and finding fault with the state's review.
My understanding was that the DOE audit was not intended to be the thorough audit to answer all of the questions, but simply to determine if something happened.
quote:If there is any evidence that Taylor played a part in the irregularities, I agree with you completely. But at least remember that he was not even in BR during the first two years the state's review covered. He was only hired in April, 2012. The review went back to 2010.
While the investigation itself is not enough on its own to call for resignations, I think the reaction to it and Taylor's record of ineffectiveness here is more than enough. It's past time for him to go.
If he knew about the issues and did nothing during the two years he has been working at the school system, it should cost him his job.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:16 pm to LSURussian
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“I don’t want to use the terminology ‘witch hunt,’ I’ll leave that for other folks,” said board Vice President Tarvald Smith. “I have 10 years on the board tomorrow. I have never seen it under this type of attack, and you just have to look at the actors and look at the motives and I think you’ll come to your own conclusions.”
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:17 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I didn't read anything in the OP's linked article which says any school board member is trying to "deflect away from the current findings."
So you think the school board will make this decision in a complete vacuum?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:18 pm to LSURussian
quote:What motive could an EBRPSS employee have that would justify falsifying student records for reporting to state officials? I don't care about excuses. I want accountability. Rather than another audit, why doesn't the EBRPSB invite law enforcement to conduct a criminal investigation into the known irregularities? The EBRPSB members and the Superintendent should be more outraged by the findings than the public. They were personally betrayed by their "trusted" employees.
I think it is a damn good idea to try to determine why the irregularities occurred. I'm surprised you don't think that's important.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:20 pm to Poodlebrain
You're being willfully obtuse now. Tax deadline pressure must be getting to you.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:21 pm to LSURussian
quote:What does it say about him if he didn't know about these issues while on the job for two years?
If he knew about the issues and did nothing during the two years he has been working at the school system, it should cost him his job.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:24 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:You tell me.
What does it say about him if he didn't know about these issues while on the job for two years?
Do you think the CEO of every company knows everything that goes on on the clerical level? The answer is no, not even close. I've been there. I know.
It will tell me more what he does about it. So far I'm disappointed in his initial reaction. But he still has the opportunity to clean it up but he's on the clock.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:28 pm to LSURussian
quote:Sounds like something Obama and his administration would say.
Do you think the CEO of every company knows everything that goes on on the clerical level? The answer is no, not even close. I've been there. I know.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:33 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
And you sound like something someone who has never had a high-level management position would say.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:36 pm to LSURussian
quote:
If he did you wouldn't trust any results of his review no matter what he reported. Get real.
You need to get real. The DOE says kids graduated that didn't do the work. The response of the Supt. is what? We need another audit!!!!!
Whether I trust Taylor or not is not the point, the point is a serious accusation was made about some students, and it demands a serious response from the Supt.
Now I realize, Supt. Taylor can not respond to the entire audit right now, but he should be able to say after a week or so whether or not kids did graduate who should not have.
If he can't do that, shame on him.
quote:
It's apparent you've never had any experience in auditing any records or work performed by other people.
Again you have no clue about my background because my business gets audited every year and I have semi annual reviews. If after a review the CPA I employs brings something to my attention, I check into it. I don't wait for a full audit. As CEO it's my duty to find out what is going on, and correct it as needed immediately.
quote:
I have. Rule #1 is to never allow someone to audit their own work or any work they are responsible for.
That's common sense, but it's also common sense for the CEO to check into SPECIFIC CHARGES to find out what happened and to correct it immediately when necessary.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:38 pm to doubleb
I'm back to ignoring you. Sorry.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:42 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Does Pat Smith post on this board? F*ck Pat Smith! She's not on the school board anyway.
Bodi White doesn't post here either; yet you never failed to criticize him when you could.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:44 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Be careful there, it sure sounds like someone on the school board was criticizing the audit, and Russian said that wasn't true.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:44 pm to LSURussian
Why are you so against St. George. Are you against them getting their own city or just because you don't believe their math is correct?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:46 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:
Sounds like something Obama and his administration would say.
It's a legit point. There are 6,250 employees of EBR school district. There is absolutely no way a single person can know what shenanigans every one of those individuals might be up to at every moment of every work day. The Supt's blame will come about depending on how extensive the problem truly is and/or if there was any way he could have known about it.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:47 pm to Bard
quote:My thoughts exactly.
It's a legit point. There are 6,250 employees of EBR school district. There is absolutely no way a single person can know what shenanigans every one of those individuals might be up to at every moment of every work day. The Supt's blame will come about depending on how extensive the problem truly is and/or if there was any way he could have known about it.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:48 pm to LSURussian
In January it was known the state was going to do their audit as a response to a whistleblower's complaints.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:51 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I'm back to ignoring you. Sorry.
What's sorry are your futile attempts to protect the status quo.
You obviously have an agenda to keep things the way they are now, to keep the schools under the control of a corrupt regime, and to paint any legitimate opposition pushing change as idiots, liars, or people jumping to conclusions.
Keep posting, people here besides myself see what you are doing.
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