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The Iowa flood of 2008
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:18 am
Anyone remember this? A flood that lasted almost a month. Zero deaths and apprx. $64 billion of damage.
Three things I noticed concerning media coverage.
1. People being interviewed didn't complain about lack of government relief. Practically all those interviewed talked about grabbing their bootstraps and getting down to work
2. Reporting of looting was non existent because there as no looting to speak of
3. Follow-up reporting was basically nil because there wasn't lingering problems due to the flood worth making political hay about
It was the quietest natural disaster coverage I've seen in a long time by the media.
Why? Because it proved that some people get off their arse and actually do something for their own well-being as opposed to having the government let you sit on your arse in the hope the government will eventually take care of you.
Three things I noticed concerning media coverage.
1. People being interviewed didn't complain about lack of government relief. Practically all those interviewed talked about grabbing their bootstraps and getting down to work
2. Reporting of looting was non existent because there as no looting to speak of
3. Follow-up reporting was basically nil because there wasn't lingering problems due to the flood worth making political hay about
It was the quietest natural disaster coverage I've seen in a long time by the media.
Why? Because it proved that some people get off their arse and actually do something for their own well-being as opposed to having the government let you sit on your arse in the hope the government will eventually take care of you.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:26 am to Homesick Tiger
The reason that nobody cares Iowa is they don't loot and they don't complain.
What can we do for you if you don't loot nor complain? NOTHING!
I told my son that it's other people's fault and the crying baby gets what he wants. No cry, no toy, and no joy.
What can we do for you if you don't loot nor complain? NOTHING!
I told my son that it's other people's fault and the crying baby gets what he wants. No cry, no toy, and no joy.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:27 am to Homesick Tiger
In fairness to Puerto Rico, they generally seem to be not complaining and there seems to be very little crime or looting. It's just that one Ana Navarro / Hillary Clinton type women who is causing the discontent, innit?
My opinion on Puerto Ricans has actually improved because they seem to be pretty great people overall.
My opinion on Puerto Ricans has actually improved because they seem to be pretty great people overall.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:29 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
Iowa
Corn subsidies.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:31 am to Homesick Tiger
That's because folk in the Midwest and Great Plains are just good folk.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:32 am to Homesick Tiger
The majority of the monetary damage number was in crops.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:37 am to SirWinston
quote:
My opinion on Puerto Ricans has actually improved because they seem to be pretty great people overall.
I also no beef with Puerto Ricans. The thing I don't like is their Gov.
The Gov. should organize their people to clean up the mess instead of waiting for outside help.
The Gov. of Puerto Rico spent money like it grows on the tree.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:38 am to Wedge
quote:
The majority of the monetary damage number was in crops.
And? Crops are those people's livelihood. You don't think they were just as devastated losing that as compared to their homes?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:41 am to Homesick Tiger
I lived there during that time. I actually graduated high school from a smaller town right near where it all happened. During that flood was actually when I was in process of moving to Louisiana to finish college. I remember taking the state highways to get around the flooding because I29 was closed down from I forget which town in Iowa to Rockport, Missouri at the time.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:45 am to Wedge
Cedar Rapids numbers not a lot of corn and soybeans in CR or Des Moines for that matter.
The flooding waters caused devastation throughout the city on its citizens, businesses, property
owners, public buildings, religious and cultural organizations and transportation facilities (City
of Cedar Rapids, 2010).
x The flooding waters extended well beyond the 500-year floodplain and covered more
than 10 square miles of the city.
x There were 18,000 residents displaced by the muddy and sewage-filled waters that
damaged over 5,000 homes and 310 public facilities including City Hall, the Linn County
Courthouse and the City's central fire facility.
iii
x Total number of businesses directly or indirectly impacted by the flood: 1,281
o Number of businesses lost as a result of the flood: 131
o Number of businesses that have reopened: 671
o Number of businesses that reopened outside the city or flooded area: 143
x Number of jobs in the flood impacted area before the flood: 11,814
x Number of jobs lost as a result of the flood: 1,865
o Permanent: 1,324
o Temporary: 541
x Only one of seven bridges in the City (and metro area) across the Cedar River was
accessible (I-380) limiting access to the hospitals on the east side of the river.
The Cedar Rapids flood had large local and regional impacts that may persist long into the
future
Three types of regional economic development analysis are addressed in this report. First, the
direct, indirect and induced economic impacts of business lost as a result of the 2008 Cedar
Rapids Flood during the recovery period.
x The cumulative economic impacts caused by the 2008 Cedar Rapids Flood during the
period of business recovery. We estimate that the economic impacts due to the 2008
Cedar Rapids Flood generated losses in Linn County totaling:
o $2.5 billion in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 14,500 work-years of employment and nearly $590 million in employee
compensation,
o $60 million in proprietor’s income,
o $466 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $103 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $1.2 billion in gross domestic product (value added).
x We estimate that the cumulative economic impacts due to the 2008 Flood generated
losses in rest of Iowa totaling:
o $105.8 million in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 513 work-years of employment and nearly $19.2 million employee compensation,
o $4.9 million in proprietor’s income,
o $18.8 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $2.4 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $45.2 million in gross domestic product (value added).
x We estimate that the cumulative economic impacts due to the 2008 Flood generated
losses in State of Iowa totaling:
iv
o $2.6 billion in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 15,000 work-years of employment and nearly $609 million employee
compensation,
o $4.9 million in proprietor’s income,
o $64.7 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $105.6 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $1.3 billion in gross domestic product (value added).
The flooding waters caused devastation throughout the city on its citizens, businesses, property
owners, public buildings, religious and cultural organizations and transportation facilities (City
of Cedar Rapids, 2010).
x The flooding waters extended well beyond the 500-year floodplain and covered more
than 10 square miles of the city.
x There were 18,000 residents displaced by the muddy and sewage-filled waters that
damaged over 5,000 homes and 310 public facilities including City Hall, the Linn County
Courthouse and the City's central fire facility.
iii
x Total number of businesses directly or indirectly impacted by the flood: 1,281
o Number of businesses lost as a result of the flood: 131
o Number of businesses that have reopened: 671
o Number of businesses that reopened outside the city or flooded area: 143
x Number of jobs in the flood impacted area before the flood: 11,814
x Number of jobs lost as a result of the flood: 1,865
o Permanent: 1,324
o Temporary: 541
x Only one of seven bridges in the City (and metro area) across the Cedar River was
accessible (I-380) limiting access to the hospitals on the east side of the river.
The Cedar Rapids flood had large local and regional impacts that may persist long into the
future
Three types of regional economic development analysis are addressed in this report. First, the
direct, indirect and induced economic impacts of business lost as a result of the 2008 Cedar
Rapids Flood during the recovery period.
x The cumulative economic impacts caused by the 2008 Cedar Rapids Flood during the
period of business recovery. We estimate that the economic impacts due to the 2008
Cedar Rapids Flood generated losses in Linn County totaling:
o $2.5 billion in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 14,500 work-years of employment and nearly $590 million in employee
compensation,
o $60 million in proprietor’s income,
o $466 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $103 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $1.2 billion in gross domestic product (value added).
x We estimate that the cumulative economic impacts due to the 2008 Flood generated
losses in rest of Iowa totaling:
o $105.8 million in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 513 work-years of employment and nearly $19.2 million employee compensation,
o $4.9 million in proprietor’s income,
o $18.8 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $2.4 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $45.2 million in gross domestic product (value added).
x We estimate that the cumulative economic impacts due to the 2008 Flood generated
losses in State of Iowa totaling:
iv
o $2.6 billion in business sales over the flood recovery period,
o 15,000 work-years of employment and nearly $609 million employee
compensation,
o $4.9 million in proprietor’s income,
o $64.7 million in rents, dividends, profits, etc. were lost or not paid,
o $105.6 million in indirect business taxes, and
o $1.3 billion in gross domestic product (value added).
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:46 am to Steadyhands
I29 was closed to north of Missouri Valley.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 am to Homesick Tiger
Midwestern values vs entitlement mentality
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:37 am to SirWinston
quote:
In fairness to Puerto Rico, they generally seem to be not complaining and there seems to be very little crime or looting. It's just that one Ana Navarro / Hillary Clinton type women who is causing the discontent, innit?
My opinion on Puerto Ricans has actually improved because they seem to be pretty great people overall.
Listening to the Geraldo interview I was a little awe struck that this mayor seems to think that it is the US's (specifically Trump's) responsibility to "restore" everything in PR, as if they have no means of repairing power grids, rebuilding anything, or helping their own people. The expectation for some aid is reasonable, but she seems to be lamenting the fact that she can't sit back and relax while hoards of gringos come and put everything back like it was within a week.
It's a peek inside the mind of the hard left and their expectations of government
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:43 am to Vacherie Saint
If callers into various radio shows are correct, the higher ups in PR are preventing the supplies from being distributed for whatever reason. The caller in question was a cop down there and was begging the military to take over distribution.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:45 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Well they ran the power system into the ground it was 9 billion in debt and was on a par to the 1960s level infrastructure, of course the corrupt fricks want someone else to fix it.
I was a little awe struck that this mayor seems to think that it is the US's (specifically Trump's) responsibility to "restore" everything in PR, as if they have no means of repairing power grids, rebuilding anything, or helping their own people.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to Jbird
quote:
I29 was closed to north of Missouri Valley.
I remember that now. I remember crossing the bridge from Nebraska city right before it was closed there....down to one lane in both directions and sand walls around all the businesses by I29. Wait a minute...that was a different one...I'm thinking of 2011 flooding in July and August that had the interstate shut down. I think my previous post maybe mixed you up too. 2011 was much worse for the Missouri valley area down into Missouri. Also north of council bluffs was bad too, though they managed to keep I29 open with massive sandbag walls through the mt crescent area.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
It was the quietest natural disaster coverage I've seen in a long time by the media.
Why?
A higher than average level of cultural homogeny?
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am to Steadyhands
That very well could be true.
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