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The Democrat party is now run and exists as social progressives

Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:32 pm
They have nothing in common with ideals espoused on free speech, freedom of thought, diversity, etc.


They exist as only as a social disunity and disorganization campaign against, and I do recognize the irony, the progression of society
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:17 pm to
It's more out of necessity than self-correction, but I do think there are some choices being made about what the Democratic party wants to stand for. I think the understand they have clearly lost the white working class and they're in the process of deciding if they want to have them back.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:20 pm to
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they're in the process of deciding if they want to have them back.




They can't win statewide, and certainly not nationwide Presidencies without it, other than a few states. Whites are still a large enough demographic in every single state that alienating and especially being antagonistic towards them is a losing recipe.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:22 pm to
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They can't win statewide, and certainly not nationwide Presidencies without it, other than a few states. Whites are still a large enough demographic in every single state that alienating and especially being antagonistic towards them is a losing recipe.


I agree, but the SJW side is so vocal and they'll turn out to vote. And Trump has brought over a ton of white working class, and I don't know if the Democrats can get them back even if they wanted to.

I don't know if there is a path to viability and power if the Democrats don't get back at least a portion of the white working class.
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:24 pm to
Well conservatives just voted for a draft dodging populist twitter troll. So i guess we are all fricked
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:25 pm to
Your comments fit the republican party to a T.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:25 pm to
Another substantive post by tigerdev
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:26 pm to
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Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:29 pm to
It would be so simple for Democrats to get back the WWC: 1. Shut up about trannies; 2. Stop actively inciting lunatics to murder police officers, riot, and set fires. But I think they're too far gone down the path of believing their own bullshite to follow these two simple steps.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:29 pm to
Real talk though. The thread is about the change of one party. But ignoring that the conservatives in this country have completely sold out the beliefs they have put out for decades.

Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:30 pm to
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White blue collar voters cannot exist in the same party as the social progressives.

The social progressives won't tolerate it.


Also true.

I don't know if Trump's hold on the white working class will be permanent, but it's pretty strong right now. I think the Democrats should hedge by making overtures to the white working class because you know the SJW types have no other party to go to.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:30 pm to
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Your comments fit the republican party to a T.




I am not a Republican.

I think we are watching both parties disintegrate. The nationalist and libertarians are destroying the Rs. While the SJWS are destroying the Ds.

Only difference is the Rs well be viable after the crash.

The anti freedom left won't be.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:30 pm to
So no comment about the Dems going full retard and alienating the white working class?
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80259 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:35 pm to
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1. Shut up about trannies; 2. Stop actively inciting lunatics to murder police officers, riot, and set fires. But I think they're too whacked out on their own delusions to follow these two simple steps.


The country is not ready for transexuals and the bathrooms and the sports. Gays had to fight for 30 years until it became palatable. The Democrats would be making a fatal error dying on the chicks with dicks cross.

I think they've got to tread more carefully with the BLM stuff. They've had a stranglehold on the black vote for years, so they probably need to let them vent a bit. However, an appeal to law and order and peaceful protest would do well with the white working class.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:35 pm to
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Real talk though. The thread is about the change of one party. But ignoring that the conservatives in this country have completely sold out the beliefs they have put out for decades.



That's going to be any political party. They don't exist to further the interests of their constituents, but of themselves and their power structure.

What matters for them, however, is that they have enough constituents and voters to win an election, and at least appear as if they are working towards those interests. If Democrats do not have the ability to make white working class people think they are being fricked over by Republican policies (or if these people feel their very existence is resented by other voices in their party), it doesn't matter what the reality is.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:38 pm to
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just voted for a draft dodging


How far back do you have to go to find a Dem that served in the military? 50 years? 100 years?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:39 pm to
Carter...
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

So no comment about the Dems going full retard and alienating the white working class?
What comment is needed? If you want to start a new thread about a different topic do so. I have the right to refute the points made in *this* thread.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 10:43 pm to
We shall see. You are acting as if Trump DESTROYED HRC. I know that is a fun talking point here in the echo chamber but the crucial states were won by small margins.
Conservatives here are acting with the very hubris that cost us liberal so dearly recently on the back of Obama's wins. Obama won by much larger margins btw.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 10:45 pm to
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How far back do you have to go to find a Dem that served in the military? 50 years? 100 years?
The mirror? My grandparents, parents, 3 cousins?

Quit being an a-hole. That isn't a cool line of banter.
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