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re: The DC Uniparty wants everything you don't.

Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:43 am to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:43 am to
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They would restrain themselves were Desantis or Haley the nominee?


They would for Haley, or even help her win, since she's one of them. They thought they could buy DeSantis and destroy Trump once and for all and once DeSantis realized it wasn't going to happen, and he's gone back to being who he was before they recruited him.
If the Repub in the race will not do their bidding and the Democrat will, they'll put their power behind the Democrat.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:45 am to
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Then define the "Uniparty" with specifics. Not talking points and generalities.

It's like other fear-inducing buzzwords like "globalism" that are nothing more than malleable concepts that shift with the argument to avoid scrutiny.


Imagine being this retarded and still thinking you're the smartest guy on this forum.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:47 am to
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Republicans own the open border after killing the border deal. You can’t dispute that.


You're insane and I can dispute that. The laws and power exists for Biden to stop the border situation by (1) enforcing existing immigration law; and (2) by executive order. He does not need a "border deal" aka extortion to fix the border issue he created by demanding billions of funding for the MIC fest war in the Ukraine. Nerd.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4493 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:53 am to
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You mean the major issues that divide the parties and have for decades? Yes, I relied on history instead of 2 random datapoints that will be gone shortly.


Ukraine and the border/immigration are “2 random datapoints that will be gone shortly?”

Ok, you can’t answer the question. I understand.

Again, I’m sorry if you don’t like it but those “random datapoints” are the two primary issues of this time and we have an election coming up.

I’m sure WWII, Korea, Vietnam could’ve all been considered “random datapoints” back in their day but guess what, those issues going on at those times were at the forefront of most voters minds.

Voters tend to assess and vote going by what the issues of the day are, not which party “historically provides tax cuts” or whatever longer term, traditional thing you must think should matter more.

Good effort …but I think most of us are left still trying to determine the major differences between DC Democrats and DC Republicans as it pertains to these current “random datapoints”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423375 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:02 am to
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Ukraine and the border/immigration are “2 random datapoints that will be gone shortly?”

Ukraine and this current border crisis are.

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but those “random datapoints” are the two primary issues of this time and we have an election coming up.

Again, it's only 1 election.

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Voters tend to assess and vote going by what the issues of the day are, not which party “historically provides tax cuts” or whatever longer term, traditional thing you must think should matter more.

Exactly why the concept of the "Uniparty" is so dumb. Thank you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423375 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:03 am to
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but I think most of us are left still trying to determine the major differences between DC Democrats and DC Republicans as it pertains to these current “random datapoints”.

Again, proving my point about how the term is malleable.

You are literally defining the Uniparty in terms of topics that change constantly. That's not a definition: it's a moving target.

Thank, you, again
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4493 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:14 am to
Not quite the win you must think you’ve obtained, lol.

I know you deny the concept of a “UniParty” but that term wasn’t coined on this board.

Yes, Republicans historically provide tax cuts (never bad I agree) and Trump with McConnells help did provide a conservative majority in the SC.

But for the issues around Ukraine, around the border, around trade, around the continued degradation of our major cities, etc etc etc, there has been no discernible major differences in recent years between the two major DC parties. If there are, then one/both of them aren’t doing a good job at making the case of defining those differences.

You can’t answer the question presented and that’s ok. Neither can most people in recent years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423375 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:25 am to
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around trade, around the continued degradation of our major cities, etc etc etc, there has been no discernible major differences in recent years

Wait what? This is just a flat out lie.

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If there are, then one/both of them aren’t doing a good job at making the case of defining those differences.

It sounds like you let others define things for you and you just follow.

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You can’t answer the question presented and that’s ok.

I can answer it, but it has no value to this thread.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4493 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:27 am to
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I can answer it, but it has no value to this thread.


Of course you can.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5053 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:39 am to
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. Russia causing a civil uprising due to a puppet regime has had long-term consequences.


So you actually believe Russia is 100% at fault in this war and the Ukraine/Nato/ and the US govt did nothing wrong?
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3109 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:43 am to
They only want power. Everything else falls into place.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423375 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:50 am to
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So you actually believe Russia is 100% at fault in this war

100%? No. Probably 85-90%, though.

Most of the Western "fault" is because they, effectively, wouldn't let Russia do whatever it wanted in Ukraine.

We did respond to Russian aggression and the civil uprising it caused by helping the anti-Russian governmetn get in place. But even that has minimal impacts on the current conflict b/c Zelensky's government ousted them.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5053 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
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We did respond to Russian aggression and the civil uprising it caused by helping the anti-Russian government get in place. But even that has minimal impacts on the current conflict b/c Zelensky's government ousted them.


What makes Zelensky's govt legitimate compared to Viktor Yanukovych's? His election was declared legitimate by the world - the first time he won it wasn't and they had another election where he lost
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64736 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:42 pm to
I think their working list is larger than this
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5063 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:43 pm to
UNIPARTY is new
The same old WERE A VICTIM OF EVERYONE/EVERYTHING is timeless
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
646 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Where do you see the major differences between the two main parties?


On the border - Republicans are looking to close it, Democrats are looking for more government employees to process illegals

On Ukraine - Republicans are willing to contribute to prevent a potential nuclear war in Europe, but want Biden to deliver some semblance of a plan for the war to end. Democrats just want an open checkbook.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2520 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:27 pm to
Idahoeunuch chimes in.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4493 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:33 pm to
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On the border - Republicans are looking to close it, Democrats are looking for more government employees to process illegals On Ukraine - Republicans are willing to contribute to prevent a potential nuclear war in Europe, but want Biden to deliver some semblance of a plan for the war to end. Democrats just want an open checkbook.


Well, I “don’t know if you’re right”, but Thank You.

In two short paragraphs, you simply responded to something that poor ol’ SFP seemed incapable of doing in about 4 or 5 tries (though he maintained he could’ve had he deemed it worthy of the thread to do so, lol)

So, if you believe these things to be true, why do you think DC Repubs have had a challenge in emphasizing and making that difference well known to the general voting base in recent times? (Unless you feel they have been already.)
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3267 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:35 pm to
Did you copy and paste that from Bill Cassidy's website under the "my policies" tab?
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
646 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:38 pm to
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hey thought they could buy DeSantis and destroy Trump once and for all and once DeSantis realized it wasn't going to happen, and he's gone back to being who he was before they recruited him.


Holy conspiracy theory Batman. I'm gonna have to see the link for that one.
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